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  •  Couple of things; no flames. (14+ / 0-)

    1. The Waltons have been underemploying their workers forever. It has nothing to do with ACA. It is SOP for them and always has been.

    2. There are large businesses like Starbucks and Costco who WANT their competitors to be forced to "pay their share." I saw the CEO of Starbucks on Charlie Rose a few years ago. He said that when other companies DON'T pay their workers a good wage with benefits, it is an unfair drain on companies like his that do. He and his workforce end up subsidizing the underemployed, uncovered workers of Walmart, Papa John's, etc. when they pay higher bills for healthcare, etc.  

    Metaphors be with you.

    by koosah on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 07:44:59 AM PDT

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    •  Fair enough...but keep in mind... (4+ / 0-)
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      ...that the employer mandate isn't even in effect until 2015 since the administration moved it back a year. They never should have left the loophole in the law.

      Wal-Mart aside, large employers in general sticking it their employees will have much to do with their ability to skirt the AC requirements. It is no coincidence that most of the jobs created out of the Great Recession are part-time jobs at the same time that the ACA was marching forward to enactment.

      Point is, now is not the time to defend that particular part of the law. Now is the time to close the loophole so they won't use it as an excuse.

      Adequate health care should be a LEGAL RIGHT in the U.S without begging or bankruptcy. Until it is, we should not dare call our society civilized.

      by Love Me Slender on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 07:47:55 AM PDT

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      •  We're being divided & conquered. (3+ / 0-)
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        Think about this mathematically.

        If this Walmart store needs, say, 4000 staff-hours a week to operate (I'm making that up), they can accomplish that with 100 workers at 40 hours each, or 160 workers at 25 hours each.

        So if they increase some of their current part-timers to full-time, they will reduce or eliminate the hours worked by other current part-timers.

        Ordinary people are being pitted against each other. Divide & conquer.

        The problem is not that Obamacare draws the line at 30 hours. The problem is that Obamacare draws a line. And the even deeper problem is that the austerity policies of the federal government result in mass unemployment and less-than-universal healthcare.

        Now I fully understand that Obamacare is a big advance over the status quo, and for that reason I support it. But as long as we accept that (a) our healthcare system is not universal, and (b) we will not provide full employment, we'll continue to have disputes like this.

        "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

        by HeyMikey on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 08:46:49 AM PDT

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        •  Most of the stores are understaffed (7+ / 0-)

          due to demands from corporate.

          To use your illustration numbers, they may NEED 4,000 hours, but they're not supposed to let most employees go over 25-30 hours, BUT they're supposed to do it with only 100 employees.  The individual stores can't win - and their employees are in a perpetual state of being screwed five ways from Sunday.

          My job has me visiting stores to set up displays and the like. I fucking HATE going into WalMarts. They're filthy, the employees don't have enough time to do even half of their jobs but get chewed out if they don't do it all so they're perpetually in a bad mood (understandably!), and when I have to have a WM manager sign something I spend longer waiting for one/trying to find one than I do on the damn project - then MY boss gets peeved that I'm taking longer than the allotted time for my work.

          On the whole, I prefer not to be lectured on patriotism by those who keep offshore maildrops in order to avoid paying their taxes. - Molly Ivins

          by Lashe on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 11:32:12 AM PDT

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    •  koosah: not just SB / Costco, but all of US (6+ / 0-)

      as well.

      Wal-Mart has been a crappy organization to work for since at least '88, when it opened a "megastore" in Big Spring, boasting  of the 400 or so jobs it would provide. That store had one employee considered to be "full-time," i.e. paid for a 40-hour workweek. Scheduling for other employees (and in other stores, as witness my kid brother who worked for a different Wal-Mart in another similar-size town) aimed to keep people from being able to count on full or even half-days off, yet make sure nobody worked more than 37 hours in a week (part-time, in Texas).

      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 09:18:14 AM PDT

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      •  Absolutely. And Walmart isn't the only offender. (10+ / 0-)

        Countless large businesses have adopted this model since the late 1980s. Offer benefits like health insurance and 401k plans, but keep employees chronically underemployed to minimize the number who can access those benefits.

        These businesses have been doing it for decades and to NOW claim they "must" cut employee hours because of the ACA is beyond outrageous. They should be challenged on it whenever it happens and asked for data comparing their previous levels of full time vs part time hours per worker compared to current levels.

        Remember when the "Economic Downturn" happened? AKA the "Great Recession?" Many businesses used that as a convenient excuse to lower their labor expenditures through lay-offs and/or lower wages/wage stagnation. They took advantage of an external happenstance to take the blame for something they already wanted to do.

        The ACA is similarly taking the blame for genital wart corporations like Papa John's, Applebee's, and Walmart, that are conveniently using ACA as an excuse for what they already do.  

        Metaphors be with you.

        by koosah on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 09:45:10 AM PDT

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        •  We just averted a grocery strike over this (3+ / 0-)
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          According to a friend of mine whose daughter works at one of the affected stores, a group of grocery operators here in the Seattle area wanted to cut employees' hours down to a maximum of 29/week so they wouldn't have to pay for health insurance (among other demands). The employees, naturally enough, were miffed at this and had filed a 72-hour strike notice Friday evening.

          I got word tonight that the grocery operators had reached an agreement with the employees to settle the dispute and avert the strike. I can only take that to mean that the employers backed off of the part-timers-only proposal, although those of us on the outside haven't seen the proposed new contract yet. It's undoubtedly a good thing for the grocers they did, since a Seattle Times internet pollshowed that over 3/4 of those taking the poll would not cross a picket line to get their groceries.

          And how was this done?

          THROUGH A UNION.

          Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

          by Omir the Storyteller on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 08:19:53 PM PDT

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    •  But the genius of the ACA is if employees (4+ / 0-)

      only get 29 hours, they also get substantial subsidies from the government.  It helps break off health care from employment.
      Eventually the law of supply and demand will prevail.  Employers will realize they need to supply employees to meet the demands of customers and that will outweigh  the cost of providing health care.
      Wal-Mart is already forcing employees on Medicaid and food stamps because they pay so little.
      I don't shop at Wal-Mart.  I shop at Costco, which treats its employees humanely.

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      by OnePingOnly on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 07:59:03 PM PDT

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