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  •  And to think, all this could have been avoided... (9+ / 0-)

    ...if Obama was as steadfast in support of single-payer/public option in dealing with Democrats as he has been defending Obamacare against Republicans.

    (sighs)

    Adequate health care should be a LEGAL RIGHT in the U.S without begging or bankruptcy. Until it is, we should not dare call our society civilized.

    by Love Me Slender on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 05:26:49 PM PDT

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    •  How could he be "steadfast" (2+ / 0-)
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      in supporting something he never supported? He certainly didn't campaign on single-payer--quite the opposite, he said it wasn't an option, because people he heard from during the campaign said they wanted to keep the insurance they had.

      "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

      by Alice in Florida on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 05:45:08 PM PDT

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      •  You are 100% DEAD WRONG... (3+ / 0-)
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        ...but don't take my word for it...here's the man himself, circa 2003:

        “I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.” (applause) “I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody.
        http://www.pnhp.org/...

        Adequate health care should be a LEGAL RIGHT in the U.S without begging or bankruptcy. Until it is, we should not dare call our society civilized.

        by Love Me Slender on Mon Oct 21, 2013 at 06:02:09 PM PDT

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        •  2003 is not the presidential campaign. (0+ / 0-)

          By 2008, he was talking about a "public option."

          •  Yeah...read previous commenter's words again... (1+ / 0-)
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            How could he be "steadfast" in supporting something he never supported?
            That whole reading thing...it does a mind good.

            And about that public option...where is it in the ACA again?

            Oh wait...

            Adequate health care should be a LEGAL RIGHT in the U.S without begging or bankruptcy. Until it is, we should not dare call our society civilized.

            by Love Me Slender on Tue Oct 22, 2013 at 03:30:18 AM PDT

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        •  OK, that guy supported single payer (0+ / 0-)

          among other things, but the Obama who ran for President was a very different person from the state senator from Illinois.

          At any rate, the American People were never sold on single payer, that's the key problem. If the American people (not just liberals) demanded it, and elected steadfast liberals to Congress instead of mostly "moderate" Democrats, then Medicare for All would have actually been brought up for debate...but they didn't, and it wasn't.  

          "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

          by Alice in Florida on Tue Oct 22, 2013 at 11:42:42 AM PDT

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