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  •  for the record: that's what the Pope said (29+ / 0-)
    Source: Vatican Radio

    “The faith passes, so to speak, through a distiller and becomes ideology. And ideology does not beckon [people]. In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements.”

    “The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens. Ideology chases away the people. It creates distances between people and it distances the Church from the people. But it is a serious illness, this ideology in Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh? Already the Apostle John, in his first Letter, spoke of this. Christians who lose the faith and prefer the ideologies. His attitude is: be rigid, moralistic, ethical, but without kindness. This can be the question, no? But why is it that a Christian can become like this? Just one thing: this Christian does not pray. And if there is no prayer, you always close the door.”

    “When a Christian does not pray, this happens. And his witness is an arrogant witness.” He who does not pray is “arrogant, is proud, is sure of himself. He is not humble. He seeks his own advancement.” Instead, he said, “when a Christian prays, he is not far from the faith; he speaks with Jesus.” And, the Pope said, “I say to pray, I do not say to say prayers, because these teachers of the law said many prayers” in order to be seen. Jesus, instead, says: “when you pray, go into your room and pray to the Father in secret, heart to heart.” The pope continued: “It is one thing to pray, and another thing to say prayers.”

    “These do not pray, abandoning the faith and transforming it into moralistic, casuistic ideology, without Jesus. And when a prophet or a good Christian reproaches them, they the same that they did with Jesus: ‘When Jesus left, the scribes and Pharisees began to act with hostility toward him’ – they are ideologically hostile – ‘and to interrogate him about many things,’ – they are insidious – ‘for they were plotting to catch him at something he might say.’ They are not transparent. Ah, poor things, they are people dishonored by their pride. We ask the Lord for Grace, first: never to stop praying to never lose the faith; to remain humble, and so not to become closed, which closes the way to the Lord.”

    Emphasis is mine, I am not catholic, but there are things I feel are universally right  in this paragraph.
    •  Sounds like it's anti-Opus Dei. (0+ / 0-)

      In which case, I hope Francis has food tasters.

      As a non-christian, I'm not especially impressed by all this. Sure, any steps towards the Church becoming less toxic (and a better neighbor/colleague/guest/whatever) are welcome -- but it's a huge organization, and the inertia tends in the other direction. We'll see what happens.

      (interestingly, some of the things in that passage touch on  some of the philosophical fundamentals that I feel are most wrong about the religion. I don't want to get into details -- different strokes & all that -- but your use of the word 'universal' raised a (metaphorical) eyebrow. The only universal I see there is the necessity for kindness, which is almost a throwaway thought in the quoted passage.)

    •  Wow . One of his best quotes: (0+ / 0-)

      "It is one thing to pray, and another thing to say prayers".


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