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    ivorybill, Aunt Pat

    I wonder how that explains either Texas or Arizona.  I guess historically there have been some high-ranking elected Democrats there.  

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    by sneakers563 on Wed Oct 23, 2013 at 10:35:40 AM PDT

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    •  One difference is that in Texas and Arizona (8+ / 0-)

      the Anglo GOP base feels under threat from Latinos. There's a whole ethnic component to politics in those states that isn't so much the case in Utah. So the GOP in TX and especially AZ behaves with the fear, insecurity and the rebellious tea party mindset because they think they will lose power, and they feel like they have to confront the federal government. Utah Republicans in general are less driven by fear of eventual minority status. Utah is going to be white and Mormon for a long time. Also, Mormons seem less racist against Latinos than the national average GOP base. They are too busy trying to convert them; many Mormons go on mission to Latin America. I've met conservative Mormons who are not scared of Latino immigrants and don't give off that vibe of racial animosity the way many voters do in AZ and TX, used for short-term political gain by sociopaths like Jan Brewer.  That would be my guess. But it's just a guess.

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      by ivorybill on Wed Oct 23, 2013 at 11:07:49 AM PDT

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      •  Good summary, ivorybill. (3+ / 0-)
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        Aunt Pat, Ckntfld, ivorybill

        You're exactly right; while there is an undercurrent of racism in the dominant white Mormon population, it's more generic suburban racism than the "desperate to keep their power" racism of Texas and Arizona.

        It's more of "aah I don't see those kinds of people around here much" than "Aaaah those people are taking over". The racism is especially toned down if the individual members of a minority are Mormon themselves; LDS folks tend to like minority Mormons and think the world of them.

        And yes, lots of Mormons go on missions to Latin America, and are fairly comfortable with Hispanic immigrants. Salt Lake County Mayor Ben McAdams went on a mission to Brazil and he stated that seeing the poverty there is what made him a Democrat.

        This is also why I don't think Mia Love lost because of racism; she was clearly Mormon, and everyone knew it. And as I said earlier in this comment, Mormons love LDS members of a minority, possibly because that takes the edge off of the suburban-style racism.

        Of course, since the assumption in Utah is that if you're a minority and a Democrat, you're not a Mormon...

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        by Gygaxian on Wed Oct 23, 2013 at 11:17:14 AM PDT

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