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  •  There was slavery in South & Central America... (3+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, Chitown Kev, elwior

    ...and the Caribbean in all of the European colonies. Brazil was the largest "importer" of African slaves.

    "Only" around 10% - 12% of enslaved African ended up in North America.

    European Mexicans "had" indigenous Aztecs to "use" for labor so I don't think many African slaves ended up in Mexico.

    Nevertheless, it doesn't seem like the fate of the Confederacy influenced slavery in South America or the Caribbean one way or the other.

    •  "European Mexicans" = Spanish Aristocrats (7+ / 0-)

      who do not see themselves as "Mexican" to this day;  "Mexican" indicating the stable mixed-race population of Spaniards and Indians (not just the Aztecs, y'know).

      The "European Mexicans" only speak to other conquistadors, and to their underlings;  foreigners, Indians, 'Mexicans' only exist as resources and obstacles.  High Confederate racism with an accent.

      They don't really need slavery these days:  the Indian population is desperate enough to do virtually anything in hopes of providing for their families;  poverty exists like that in the US but you have to stumble upon or be led to it as we hide it very well (mostly, IIRC we hide it on the concentration camps we call 'reservations'.  There are still plenty of in-betweeners to do the dirty work of managing and arranging all this in exchange for a (tiny) piece of the pie.  And of course, there are just enough white Spaniards to own everything.

      Nevertheless, it doesn't seem like the fate of the Confederacy influenced slavery in South America or the Caribbean one way or the other.
      I think you're on thin ice here:  the avaricious eye of the "major voices" in the CSA were all over the Caribbean Basin, including what are now the Guianas, Venezuela and Colombia, as well as Central America.  If you think a maritime 'zone of influence, that large would not have dramatically shifted the CSA's rather precarious initial position to one of considerable strength, or would not have been sought by the CSA despite all indicators, then I say you should share the supporting argument for your position, since the opposing argument is so strong.

      trying to stay alive 'til I reach 65!

      by chmood on Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 02:36:45 PM PDT

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