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  •  Yeah, well. We would've done the same (0+ / 0-)

    if someone had said that about Bush.

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    by Code Monkey on Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 09:41:49 AM PDT

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    •  well, maybe (4+ / 0-)
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      but it would not have been a swipe at GWB's race

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      by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 09:55:02 AM PDT

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      •  ???? (0+ / 0-)

        Come on. If this was off-limits on racial grounds, we're rapidly approaching “anything negative said about Obama is automatically racist” territory.

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        by Code Monkey on Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 10:09:28 AM PDT

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        •  huh? (5+ / 0-)

          Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
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          by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 10:33:53 AM PDT

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        •  Can you explain what Sessions meant? (4+ / 0-)
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          •  Not Fit For Office! (5+ / 0-)

            I'll take a shot at it: Sessions, like most teabagger types, gets caught up in actually demonizing those who oppose them personally and politically, and so it's no stretch for someone who reasons like this to be personally uncomfortable in the presence of someone who he and his fellow travelers have dehumanized endlessly.

            In this case, he let slip what he thinks, and which he and many teabaggers say amongst themselves. It does show a stunning lack of belief in civility when conducting the public's business, a standard that used to be followed somewhat faithfully. And it really does show that Sessions is unfit for public office, as there must be some Democrats in his district.

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            by paz3 on Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 11:30:41 AM PDT

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          •  Sure! (2+ / 0-)
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            “I hate you so much that the very sight of you sickens me.”

            Ta-da!!

            Look, I'm willing to understand there are racial undertones that make this situation uglier than it might be. But what's the headline on this diary? It's not that we found out who the racist asshole is or anything like that. No, it's that names have been named in the matter of the great crime of disrespecting the President. That's not a crime. It's not even a scandal.

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            by Code Monkey on Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 12:27:52 PM PDT

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            •  Why isn't it a scandal? (1+ / 0-)
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              It's not just some random heckler at a town hall making an ugly comment -- that's normal free speech and not a scandal.

              It's a fellow member of the government insulting him to his face at an official meeting.

              I never heard of that ever happening (and I've been around since Truman times) except when Joe Wilson did it to the same President at a SOTU address by shouting "You Lie", and that was a scandal, and Wilson was formally rebuked and made to apologize.  (Of course Wilson's equally disgusting constituents actually loved it, re-electing him by 9 points.)

              The only worse event I am aware of involving public government figures is when California Supreme Court justice Terry, a pro-slavery Democrat, challenged US Senator David Broderick of California, an anti-slavery Democrat, to a duel.  The challenge was accepted, and Terry shot Broderick dead.  Terry was arrested, but the charges were dismissed, this still being the pre-civil war "honor culture" time when shooting someone in a duel wasn't considered murder.

              •  This is completely different (0+ / 0-)

                from the Wilson thing, which was an extremely public outburst in the middle of a big speech. And I don't even think that was a big deal (it was right that he was reprimanded, but it wasn't a high crime).

                The story isn't that Sessions heckled Obama, it's that he said something nasty during a meeting. And again, I just don't care. What he said may make him an asshat, but it's his votes that make him a terrible person and an opponent.

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                by Code Monkey on Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 03:42:22 PM PDT

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              •  12/4/1837, AR House of Delegates (1+ / 0-)
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                Speaker Wilson and Rep Anthony had words on the floor; re: whether the president of the State Real Estate Bank (Wilson) should be required to sign the vouchers paid out for wolf scalps.  Anthony proposed it insultingly, and Wilson so took it. The speaker left the rostrum and produced a 9" Bowie from his belt, while Anthony drew a 12" model.  After much slashing and the near-severing of his left arm, Wilson restored order to the session by stabbing Anthony to the heart.  Wilson was expelled from the House and tried for murder but was convicted of "excusable homicide."  Both were Democrats.

                Wilson-Anthony Knife Fight, 1837

    •  No, I don't believe so n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    •  Stop making excuses for racist, or trying to find (0+ / 0-)

      a way out, or lessen the impact of whay this kluxer did, with things that never did, or never would have happened to Bush.

    •  The point is, why maybe in the first time in this (5+ / 0-)

      country's history something about this president makes some not only dierespect the presidency, but the presidency itself. So tell me what it is. This old black Mississippian know very well what it is. And throughout my life, there have been people like you, coming up with every other scenario besides the obvious, even though it never has and never would have happened to GWB.

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