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  •  What sometimes gets neglected when we have years (0+ / 0-)

    is how long it takes to move all our coastal infrastructure. It takes about 25 years to produce a master plan of what gets moved where when, and then another 25 years to actually do the work. That's presuming somebody manages to identify the funding and Republicans get voted out of office before they can deny everything.

    As I write this I'm listening to Rachel Madow talking about New York Cities SLOSH map. For Hurricane Sandy they were able to calculate that they needed to build a wall eight and a half feet tall to keep the subways from flooding and the flooding came within three inches of topping it out.

    Now shes talking about Roanoke Virginia and how we need to be retreating from the shorelines.  The phenomena that science studies and reports on gets acted on when there is a storm and a city floods.

    She says Republicans object to climate change and global warming as left wing terms, they prefer recurant flooding.

    She says North Carolina scientific studies project a sea level rise of one meter, but politicians decided that was too much to contemplate so they decided instead to consider a rise of one foot.

    Now she is talking about how the flooding in Nebraska threatened its Nuke plants, and how that state has decided to study historic records not of climate change but rather of cyclical climate change and scientists don't want to lend credibility to that by participating in it.

    Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

    by rktect on Wed Oct 30, 2013 at 01:15:37 AM PDT

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    •  Armageddon (0+ / 0-)

      When NYC is having storms that big regularly enough to justify the construction cost, the rest of the world will have hundreds of millions of desperate refugees, pushing into other desperate countries barely able now to feed, protect and control their current populations - mostly by force. Many of these countries have WMD and/or global terrorist franchises, and are embedded in a global infrastructure (manufacturing, energy, shipping, etc) barely able to protect itself in the customary climate.

      While NYC is hiding behind 10 foot walls, lots of places in the world are going to go to war for survival.

      It's not going to be "recurrent flooding". It's going to be armageddon.

      That's why we must use the time we have to reduce and perhaps reverse the climate change, which would be universal. While other people are doing whatever they can to somewhat protect places now more vulnerable, especially the ones more strategically located closer to armageddon.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Wed Oct 30, 2013 at 12:43:10 PM PDT

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