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  •  you act as though (0+ / 0-)

    insurance companies were not dropping people and reducing benefits BEFORE Obamacare.

    Because I assure you, they were.

    Some people are being dropped because their current plans do not cover benefits that are required to be covered by the ACA.  So their new insurance will give them MORE benefits and cost them LESS.  Why is THAT a bad thing?

    I'm angry that my old insurance that did not cover as many conditions is being cancelled and I have to get new insurance that will cover more conditions and cost me less!  It's OBAMA'S FAULT

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    by TrueBlueMajority on Fri Oct 25, 2013 at 08:15:35 AM PDT

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      •  your link supports my argument (1+ / 0-)
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        Kaiser Permanente (already notorious for cherry picking) is dropping people whose policies are inadequate, because even though Kaiser can afford it, Kaiser does not want to offer policies that offer all the benefits Obamacare covers.

        So I do not accept the premise that Kaiser was FORCED to do anything!

        as for the clip itself, there are a lot of unanswered questions there.  I don't know whether Natalie Willes is being accurate about her insurance options.  Am I taking her word for it that the plan she found that was most similar to what she had before is more expensive?  Is she eligible for a subsidy?  Did she check out the option of a higher deductible plan (which often has lower premiums) because she is young and healthy?  Anecdotes do not equal evidence.

        CBS could just as easily have chosen to do a story on a person who was being dropped and found better insurance on the exchanges.

        Let's speculate about why they did not do that

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        by TrueBlueMajority on Fri Oct 25, 2013 at 10:28:46 AM PDT

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        •  Okay, tell me this. (0+ / 0-)

          Would they have been dropped if ACA didn't exist?

          •  some of them would have! that's the point! (0+ / 0-)

            insurers, ESPECIALLY Kaiser, have been dropping people on a whim for years.  

            and even people who have insurance have had benefits taken away

            didn't you see SiCKO?

            insurers. and. employers. are. using. Ocare. as. an. excuse.

            this is their golden opportunity to drop people they have been longing to drop anyway.

            if they did not want to drop people, they would not have to.  they could simply decide to cut into their massive profits and offer adequate coverage. Wait, they aren't going to do that are they?

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            by TrueBlueMajority on Fri Oct 25, 2013 at 11:32:25 AM PDT

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