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  •  The only reason a grand bargain was ever (41+ / 0-)

    mentioned was as a way to settle issues with the Republicans for the remainder of Obama's term.  Democrats would get money for long-term investments in domestic spending targeted at jobs and education and in exchange there would be some entitlement changes.

    Well, post-shutdown, Democrats don't need to give anything to the GOP.  Their arguments and ideology have been completely discredited.

    GOP cannot threaten shutdown or default again without paying a heavy price. There is no economic justification for entitlement or budget cuts when deficits are falling and we still have a job gap to make up.  

    Paul Ryan was seriously weakened following the shut down.  His own caucus ignored him.  His primary method, extortion, has been discredited.  

    Harry Reid is telling the Republicans in very clear terms:  fix the sequester as I want to, or you will bear responsibility for defense cuts in an election year when you are already behind the 8 ball with the voters.

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    by khyber900 on Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 02:52:22 PM PDT

    •  I think you have hit the nail on the head. (10+ / 0-)

      I'm so glad to see Senator Reid put that talking head in his place.

      But the one come back I would have preferred to hear from the Senator is that they are going to work on cutting corporate welfare payments.  I have to wonder why that is so seldom a talking point.

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      The only reason a grand bargain was ever mentioned was as a way to settle issues with the Republicans for the remainder of Obama's term.  Democrats would get money for long-term investments in domestic spending targeted at jobs and education and in exchange there would be some entitlement changes.
      That would have been an awful deal and a massive defeat for Democrats in many different ways.

      I think the reason Obama talks about being willing to "reform" "entitlements" is because he's actually willing to do it. He sure as hell doesn't talk about expanding the programs, or even doing something like lifting the earnings cap on SS.

      Banking on the American people to be able to sort all this out and declare the adult in the room the winner is a very big bet. -Digby

      by Boogalord on Thu Oct 24, 2013 at 08:43:49 PM PDT

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