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  •  True about that, but we do need to understand it (4+ / 0-)

    ...as a country.  

    Are they being displaced/out-competed by immigrants?

    Have they been priced out of housing  through NIMBY-ism by upper-middle and upper class whites?

    Has immigration and union-busting driven wages so low that the working class can live in urban areas only by importing third-world living conditions from home countries?

    Is white racism so pervasive that people prefer to be poor in exurbs and rural areas than to live with minorities?

    Have education and family life for the non-college bound fallen so far that people from El Salvador and the Philippines are better prepared to succeed in American life than the native-born?

    These are blunt questions, but we need to look at them in an unbiased a way as possible.  

    •  Having lived in the Bay Area since the 1980s... (3+ / 0-)
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      First, everyone's right - he's using "working class" to mean "white male working class", ignoring everyone else.

      So. Yes, CA has high out-migration which used to be...white male working class, mostly I think those who remain are folks who want to stay. Now, there are articles describing CA as an immigration gateway - CA still has high out-migration, but in part immigrants first settle in the US in CA then migrate elsewhere, so the state has high net out-migration to other states plus even higher in-migration from other countries.

      My take...some white working class males wanted the big yards that exist elsewhere in the country and not in CA's urban areas and moved out, some moved first to the Central Valley for cheaper housing then out of state to get rid of the insane long distance commute, some moved out for racist reasons (because they didn't like CA's diversity), I think it's really a mix. There is a huge problem with the fact that buying housing (and therefore getting greater security from rents that can, in boom times go up by 20% annual rates) is out of reach for non-tech folks - a point that's explicit in the quoted article, and a problem that's been around for decades.

      I don't really care about the racist folk, but the rest of this does need to be unpacked and solved. If our police and firefighters live in the Central Valley then they will have a really hard time getting here when the next big earthquake occurs, and we'll really want them around.  Cities have to address questions like sub-market-rate housing for teachers, who really should be paid enough to afford to live here.

      •  The second generation leaving is inevitable (0+ / 0-)

        It's part of my own family, it's a big country out there. My father never got more than 300 miles from the dock he stepped onto in New York harbor; I'm closing in on seeing all fifty states.

        My siblings and childhood friends were no more likely than I was to raise children in the fifth floor walk-up we called home.

        But running people straight out of the state is a problem. NIMBY, racism, education, and the American dream of a half-acre lot all play a part.

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