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  •  I guess I don't understand the phrase, (4+ / 0-)
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    CwV, Dillonfence, TXdem, sfbob

    "lead from behind".  Or at least what you and the right wing who also use the phrase want.  What's wrong with a politician who changes position over time to better reflect the views of his constituency?  We are electing them to be representative.  We want them to reflect the changing progressive values of citizens don't we?  And isn't Kos saying we need to convince them that there is more support for progressive  policy than they think and that thus they should change some more?  Why would that be bad?

    Maybe that's why we never get progressive politicians.  We try to elect progressive leaders instead of trying to make the electorate more progressive--or convince the leaders we have that the populace is more progressive than they think.   As long as we think we will be able to elect a President that is significantly more progressive than the people who vote for her we are never going to have good choices on election day.  

    "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

    by stellaluna on Mon Oct 28, 2013 at 04:27:33 AM PDT

    •  Politicians that lead from behind tend to... (2+ / 0-)
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      be politicians that keep their jobs.

      Its our job to make gay marriage palpable. Its our job to make access to health care a winning issue. Its our job to make politicians think deeply before sending soldiers to war. Its our job to put an end to the war on the inanimate concept of the day.

      Rarely in American history has a political figure pressed the boundaries and defied public sentiment. Progressive change has happened with the wind at the backs of the politicians because THE PEOPLE have demanded it. Howard Zinn knew this and he was right. The real heroes of the history books are the everyday citizen that took a stand.

      •  With such low bars for leadership (1+ / 0-)
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        and with such high bars for unpaid civilians, why do we even need to pay the politicians?

        Obama: self-described Republican; backed up by right-wing policies

        by The Dead Man on Mon Oct 28, 2013 at 08:24:41 AM PDT

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        •  If we don't, someone else will. (1+ / 0-)
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          It's also good to have people other than the independently wealthy or those adept with declaring "personal expenses" in Congress.  

          "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

          by Yamaneko2 on Mon Oct 28, 2013 at 10:25:52 AM PDT

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