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  •  Rude (1+ / 0-)
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    Some people I'm sure wanted to hear what he had to say. His record of safety in New York City is second to none, and that's what people in the audience wanted to hear about. It's unfortunate that hecklers think they have a "free speech" right to interfere with others' freedom of assembly (they don't).

    Hold your own conference and criticize his policies if you want, but some people went there to hear him, and were deprived of that because some people apparently can't tolerate opposing views.

    •  Nonsense (7+ / 0-)
      His record of safety in New York City is second to none...
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

      http://www.theguardian.com/...

      http://www.theguardian.com/...

      http://nymag.com/...

      But don't let facts stand in your way.

      I'm a Vietnam Era vet. I'm also an Erma Bombeck Era vet. When cussing me out and calling me names please indicate which vet you would like to respond to your world changing thoughts.

      by Just Bob on Tue Oct 29, 2013 at 08:37:29 PM PDT

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      •  Your comment implies (0+ / 0-)

        that stop-and-frisk is the only policy Kelly has implemented in his years as NYPD commissioner. But it wasn't, and I never said it was. So your "don't let facts stand in your way" comment is nonsensical. The "facts" are that crime is way down under Kelly, period.

        •  Ah so you do (0+ / 0-)

          You do actually support folks of color being violated so you can feel better. Nice.

          Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

          by moviemeister76 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 at 11:56:51 PM PDT

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        •  Crime rate is down more in other cities (1+ / 0-)
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          Bloomberg and Kelly are claiming credit for making it rain.

          http://www.nyclu.org/...

          While violent crimes fell 29 percent in New York City from 2001 to 2010, other large cities experienced larger violent crime declines without relying on stop and frisk abuses: 59 percent in Los Angeles, 56 percent in New Orleans, 49 percent in Dallas, and 37 percent in Baltimore.
          As to other policies, yes, there's the seven year long infiltration of mosques that never produced a single actionable lead. There's interfering in investigations in foreign countries and causing strains in international relations.

          http://www.motherjones.com/...

          I'm a Vietnam Era vet. I'm also an Erma Bombeck Era vet. When cussing me out and calling me names please indicate which vet you would like to respond to your world changing thoughts.

          by Just Bob on Wed Oct 30, 2013 at 02:00:28 AM PDT

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    •  LMAO (3+ / 0-)

      His record of safety? Yeah, I guess if you're white his record is pretty awesome. I think folks of color have a pretty different view about that record, though.

      Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

      by moviemeister76 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 at 09:00:06 PM PDT

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      •  Actually (0+ / 0-)

        Blacks were more likely to be murder victims in New York before Kelly took over, and now are much less likely to be murder victims. Safety improved for whites and blacks alike (and saved more blacks).

        •  *sigh* (1+ / 0-)
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          Are you sure you're at the right place? Are you actually supporting the violation of civil rights of people of color in order for you to feel safer at night? And you do realize that crime rates have actually been going down all over, right? Murder rates have been going down in most places for years now, but most cities didn't discriminate against people of color to make it that way.

          Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

          by moviemeister76 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 at 11:56:25 PM PDT

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          •  Huh? (0+ / 0-)

            Where did I say it's about me feeling safer? I said blacks are safer too. Not sure why you're pretending only whites are safer.

            New York's drop in crime since the 80s and especially since the 90s is far more dramatic than that of other cities.  So the "it's happening everywhere" argument is a fail.  It happened in New York at a far more significant pace.

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