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  •  Cutting the program doesn't reduce fraud. (12+ / 0-)

    It only cuts off people who need food. If there are stores willing to do that, they need to be prosecuted. If you know which ones, turn 'em in. The SNAP program has always had a Quality Control Unit that investigates individual fraud. Stabenow's statement is a poor excuse for giving in to stupid Repukes.

    •  Because Fraud Is At The Retail Level (9+ / 0-)

      ....cutting individual benefits accomplishes nothing.

      Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

      by bernardpliers on Thu Oct 31, 2013 at 06:41:10 PM PDT

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    •  Senate cut to SNAP (0+ / 0-)

      The Senate provision which cut SNAP by $400 million annually does close a real loophole.

      Some states give SNAP recipients a negligible subsidy, say $10 a year, to help those folks pay their home heating bills.  Getting that $10 LIHEAP subsidy allows those recipients to artificially inflate their monthly deductions, giving them a somewhat bigger benefit than they would otherwise receive.

      The provision requires those states to give recipients a somewhat higher LIHEAP subsidy to qualify for the heating deduction, and CBO assumes not all states will raise the subsidy, thus lowering benefits paid to some families.

      It's not a great thing to reduce benefits, but the Senate bill does not knock anyone off the SNAP rolls, unlike the House provisions.

      •  I worked at the welfare office for six years. (2+ / 0-)
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        Nothing you said makes any sense to me. SNAP is a program unto itself, as is LIHEAP. What a recipient gets from one has nothing to do with what he/she gets from the other. There are no loopholes. Any cut in the SNAP program will hurt people.

        •  Some states link LIHEAP and SNAP benefits (0+ / 0-)

          This is the case in about 14 states-receiving LIHEAP, even for $1, makes a family eligible for higher SNAP benefits through the calculation of the utility deduction.  The state you worked in may not have been one of them--I know New York is one that has such rules.

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