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  •  Make no mistake (7+ / 0-)

    we can tear it down, but this time, it's going to be a lot more painful for us if we just sit back and wait for pols to do it. Because pols are NOT going to be able to do it alone this time. They need the peoples' help.

    I say that because how many times have these "directors" outright lied to Congress with impunity? Congress doesn't just need "backbone". They need help.

    It's time. Time to get up and go Greece and Turkey on this bunch. It is the only way.

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Thu Oct 31, 2013 at 11:01:34 AM PDT

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    •  The pols who are rewarded by Defense contractors (4+ / 0-)
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      ...are very reluctant to cut off their money flow from the Defense Contractor Industry (See Booz Allen, SAS, etc, etc).  

      Also the politicians may be coming to an uncomfortable realization that if NSA has been collecting 'not only metadata but also content' --  of "millions of records daily", their own communications could well be in the NSA databases.  Our Congress critters and Admin. officials may not want to poke too hard at the people that have who-knows-what information on who-knows-who--including very possibly, themselves.  
       

      •  If they want to be patriots (1+ / 0-)
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        for this country as a whole, they're gonna  need to start looking past the concept of covering their own asses.

        For example, if they're being threatened, they need to find a way to convey that, and damn the consequences, even if it means something really bad is going to happen to them, personally.

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Thu Oct 31, 2013 at 02:15:54 PM PDT

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        •  It's a conundrum--If they... (1+ / 0-)
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          are greedier than they are patriotic, they will choose enriching themselves over making choices that are good for the rest of us.

          If they have secrets they don't want publicized, but decide to go ahead and hold the Intelligence Community accountable, they could lose elections, and with them, lose the ability to do anything to curb the NSA, etc.  If they have secrets they don't want publicized and decide to go easy on Intelligence community accountability, their power as members of Congress doesn't mean much.

          •  Only if you try and you fail (1+ / 0-)
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            If they have secrets they don't want publicized, but decide to go ahead and hold the Intelligence Community accountable, they could lose elections,
            Which means if they're gonna go ahead and try, then they need to make sure they make a metric fuckton of noise about it so the word gets out. Even if they go on to lose elections, the cat's still out of the bag.

            Besides, everybody knows that a lot of these folks go on to write books or go work for think tanks after they're out of office. So they still get a platform of sorts anyway.

            Sooner or later, someone's gonna do it and not end up, um, getting real quiet afterward. I'm looking forward to it. It's bound to happen, particularly since Snowden literally gave up his country in an effort to get the initial word out.

            This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

            by lunachickie on Thu Oct 31, 2013 at 04:28:06 PM PDT

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