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  •  I am glad that this is on the ballot. (8+ / 0-)

    Unfortunately, Christie will probably be re-elected as our governor, but this will at least poke a stick in his eye.

    •  Why? (2+ / 0-)
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      Bad D organizing, bad candidate, some combination of the two?

      •  Buono did not have enough money to (8+ / 0-)

        run an effective state-wide campaign. NJ is expensive because you have to use both the NYC and the Philly media markets. In addition, Christie is popular. He bucked the Republicans after Superstorm Sandy, which devastated NJ (In my own case, a tree fell on my house and destroyed the back bedroom). My family will never vote for Christie because of his views on public education, choice, and marriage equality, but I don't think that enough of my neighbors will join me to make a difference.

        •  Lovely. (4+ / 0-)

          So not enough people are paying attention. Great.

          •  I think a lot of it is because of the media (1+ / 0-)
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            There is only one news/talk radio station that can be heard statewide. (Others are all from NY or Philadelphia) And the NJ station is an infomercial for Republicans 5 days a week. (oldies music on weekends) So people are only hearing one side of the story.

            Where are all the jobs, Boehner?

            by Dirtandiron on Thu Oct 31, 2013 at 03:21:58 PM PDT

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            •  Christie is what's bad for the economy!! (2+ / 0-)
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              For some reason tough, rude talk makes him likable in Jersey.

              Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

              by hawkseye on Sat Nov 02, 2013 at 04:13:00 PM PDT

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              •  Well, you're defining "economy" too broadly. (0+ / 0-)
                Earlier this year, Christie vetoed a bill to raise the minimum wage to $8.50, with automatic adjustments tied to inflation increases. That bill, he said, was bad for the economy.
                To Republicans "the economy" means "the profit margin of large corporations."
            •  we need to get New Jersey infrastruture then (0+ / 0-)

              new... I'd donate!

              http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals!

              by daeros on Sat Nov 02, 2013 at 07:15:19 PM PDT

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        •  I agree with both points (3+ / 0-)
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          Essentially, Christie is likeable and relatively moderate and despite his ambitions and flaws has not excited any particular rancor.

          In addition to what BJM listed above, I will add his rejection of stimulus funding for a major NJ/NY tunnel project which would have created jobs and economic activity, while easing congestion for NJ commuters.

          I will be voting for Buono tomorrow and any Dems on the ballot as well as the minimum wage increase.  

          Maybe it is lack of funding, but Buono has really failed to generate a lot of excitement in the state, get in the voters faces or make a case why it is crucial to eject Christie.

          Frankly, while I like Booker a lot, my respect for him dropped when he did not enter this race as he was clearly our #1 champion here in NJ and should have run against their #1 leaving the Senate seat to any of the equally qualified NJ reps who ran for it.  Can't help but suspect a little political deal-making between Obama-Booker-Christie on that front.  It's fairly mystifying otherwise.

          •  Agree with you completely. (4+ / 0-)
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            Since I have been commuting from NJ to NYC for 24 years, I am especially peeved by the cancellation of the commuter tunnel.

            •  Federal funding (1+ / 0-)
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              I agree Christie was wrong to cancel the tunnel, but there should have been more federal dollars allocated to the project. This brings me to a larger problem here that a lot of people miss. In order to really get the country out of this recession, the federal government should be spending billions on public works projects to pump up the economy, but the GOP deficit hawks in congress would scream bloody murder. The funny thing is that back in 1980s under Reagan the Republicans said deficits don't matter as long as we control inflation. Remember that?

              •  Tunnel (2+ / 0-)
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                I along with most New Jerseyans would agree that another Hudson Tunnel is necessary. The tunnel that the Governor stopped was going to be a giant boondoggle like the big dig in Massachusetts. He was right to stop this project.  

                •  Not enough money (1+ / 0-)
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                  The cost estimates for the project were artificially low and the state of New Jersey would have had to pick up the tab which isn't fair to NJ taxpayers.  If the tunnel is ever actually built its going to need more money from the federal government and possibly money from New York State or New York City.

                •  And what do you base this on? (0+ / 0-)
                  The tunnel that the Governor stopped was going to be a giant boondoggle like the big dig in Massachusetts.
                  Are you an experienced estimator? Have you done a formal study of the tunnel costs? What are you basing that assertion on? Several tunnels have been built in that area of the Hudson River, the geology is well known. And tunneling has gotten easier with the big TBMs and all that.

                  Where are all the jobs, Boehner?

                  by Dirtandiron on Sat Nov 02, 2013 at 06:08:03 PM PDT

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                  •  This tunnel subject was about 3 years ago. (0+ / 0-)

                    I remember because this depression recession was at it's height.  

                    I was like; where would they even get enough people who are driving to work in NYC, to make this tunnel work?

                    You have to have the salary of an executive to park your car in NYC.

                    I like the idea of building another commuter train tunnel (like the Path). This makes sense. The Path trains are so overcrowded. Clean energy and jobs.

                    I'm a Democrat. But Christie isn't always wrong. ie Medical Marijuana.

                    He just injects too much of his personal stuff into government, where it doesn't belong.

                    Booker is a great Senator. This is where he will learn to be a great Governor.

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                    by rebel ga on Sat Nov 02, 2013 at 07:45:10 PM PDT

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                    •  Christie isn't always wrong (0+ / 0-)

                      Christie isn't always wrong

                      I agree, in that he eventually decided to give up on fighting gay marriage. (And I'll bet he secretly doesn't care that much about being pro-life either).

                      Winston Churchill said:   "We can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other possibilities"

        •  Even with the (1+ / 0-)
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          differential between registered Dems and Republicans?
          What a shame. NJ deserves better.
          Christie is a just a bully.

          What do we want? Universal health care! When do we want it? Now!

          by cagernant on Sat Nov 02, 2013 at 04:21:59 PM PDT

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        •  Christie is an idiot (2+ / 0-)
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          And i'm even MORE mad at him for using sandy the way he did. He's wrong about education and I will never forgive him because of what he did to kids. Those charter schools are underperforming. Hear my RAGE.

          http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals!

          by daeros on Sat Nov 02, 2013 at 07:14:40 PM PDT

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      •  stabbed in the back by the party machine (3+ / 0-)

        barbara buono is not one of the back stabbing crooks in the party machine.  so they hate her.  she got no money, no help and many dem mayors endorsed the bastard,  nj needs to get rid of the party machine and turn the party back to the grass roots.

        "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Riane Eisler

        by noofsh on Sat Nov 02, 2013 at 05:43:33 PM PDT

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      •  Bad D organizing, allergywoman. (0+ / 0-)

        $8.25 is still barely livable. Especially in NJ where apt rents are about $800 a month. That's if they're rent controlled.

        Min wage should be at least $9 or $10 an hour. Inflation has already caught up.

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        by rebel ga on Sat Nov 02, 2013 at 07:08:40 PM PDT

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    •  did you know he was Bernie Madoff's lawyer? (4+ / 0-)

      why aren't they screaming that from the roof tops... heard that on Progressive radio last night... just curious if that
      was out in conversations about the re-election...

      things that make you go hmmmmm.....

      "It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment." *Ansel Adams* ."Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."*Will Rogers*

      by Statusquomustgo on Thu Oct 31, 2013 at 10:07:07 AM PDT

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    •  Yes he will...and how sad for New Jersey (1+ / 0-)
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      His policies have decimated the state, he's an obnoxious, loud mouthed bully and slightly right of Attila the Hun...sigh...

      But this would certainly be a small boon to the grossly underpaid in the State and a reminder that maybe someday the scales will fall from voters' eyes.

      Hope it passes, good luck NJ, you're going to need it.

      sh

    •  It should get people to turn out ... (1+ / 0-)
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      … who would not normally vote in an off-year election. That is, if they know the minimum wage is on the ballot. And if they realized that Christie vetoed an increase that the Democratic legislature passed, they'd vote for Barbara Buono for Governor and the other Dems for Assembly and Senate.

      I did my own small bit by producing this ad for the NJ Main Street Alliance of small business owners who support raising the minimum wage. Not only is it the right thing to do, it's good for the economy (contrary to what the big biz lobbies claim):

      (please share it if so moved!)

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