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  •  Could be B.S. (4+ / 0-)

    but I wouldn't be surprised if more comes out soon that proves he is telling the truth. Blech - then the whole thng gets icky because it means there are NSA lizard people who think they are above POTUS (which wouldn't surprise me).
    Cheers.

    I ♥ President Barack Obama.

    by ericlewis0 on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 08:50:26 AM PDT

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    •  If NSA agents were going rogue, it would make (6+ / 0-)

      sense to see some heads rolling, and Keith Alexander fired and prosecuted.

      Heads are not rolling, and Keith Alexander still has a job, which makes me think John Kerry is lying.

      “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

      by 420 forever on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 09:01:40 AM PDT

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      •  Right on time, Keith Alexander suddenly retires. (1+ / 0-)
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        They're saying that his exit was planned months ago, but nobody heard anything about it before mid-October. Interesting timing.

        Art is the handmaid of human good.

        by joe from Lowell on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 09:57:49 AM PDT

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        •  One could argue that he is "being retired" (3+ / 0-)
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          But retirement is no punishment. He needs to be fired, and prosecuted.

          “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

          by 420 forever on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 10:12:15 AM PDT

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          •  Your original comment was about... (1+ / 0-)
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            the lack of personnel consequences meaning "John Kerry is lying."

            Whether you think that "being retired" is enough of a punishment or not, such actions are (as you suggested) a good indication of whether the administration is "lying" about being in the dark on this.

            Art is the handmaid of human good.

            by joe from Lowell on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 10:22:18 AM PDT

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            •  Pick your poison (1+ / 0-)
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              a) The NSA has gone rogue, jeopardized important diplomatic relations. Keith Alexander enjoys a comfortable retirement as punishment. AKA "The buck stops elsewhere" defense.

              b) Obama knew about it, authorized it, and now that the shit hit the fan, he throws the NSA under the bus by lying about it. Keith Alexander enjoys a comfortable retirement as punishment.

              “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

              by 420 forever on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 10:50:52 AM PDT

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