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  •  Pride is a wonderful thing (0+ / 0-)

    When people are too proud to take help from their family but willingly accept free stuff from the government, our society dies. Health care costs are rising and 5 or 10 pseudo success stories do not dent the millions of people uninsured and the many more millions of people who pay more for less health care. Medicare and especially ObamaCare is a huge scam that only progressives believe in.

    •  How is this free? (3+ / 0-)
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      mayim, ahumbleopinion, rl en france

      My parents have paid taxes all their lives, as have the millions who will receive subsidies or who get Medicare. Why is it that taxes can only be used to subsidize corporations via corporate welfare or to subsidize the rich via tax incentives/breaks but heaven forbid taxes are used to help the rest of the 98% (technically, 99.98%, iirc).

      I really do think the conservative argument against subsidies is so precious. As if the government's coffers are off-limits to those who work the hardest to fill them.

    •  It has been my personal experience (2+ / 0-)
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      ahumbleopinion, rl en france

      that the sad reality is upon us that our families are no more able to offer support financially than we are. Left with no other viable resource, we turn to the federal government. There is absolutely no reason to feel shame or embarassment or humiliation in this situation.

      Our federal government continues the promise of democracy when it works "for the general welfare" of our citizens--at all. When this happens, our society is secure, and it advances when those same people, provided the assistance they need to not only survive the reality they face, but further work to (usually) re-enter the employment pool until they can safely provide for the needs of their family independently.

      Your feelings are notced, and you cetainly have the right to them. What you might want to remember is that if and when the same situation pays an unwlecome, unplanned, unexpected and completely unwelcome visit to your reality, and you suddenly find yourself alone in your dilemma, it is that very government you are decrying against that will be able to help you survive. And the same government will neither approve nor disprove your help based upon your rather remarkable political beliefs. Nor will it ask your thanks, because that IS what democracy looks like.

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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      by Bud Fields on Sun Nov 10, 2013 at 03:52:59 PM PST

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    •  "our society dies" (2+ / 0-)

      If American society is going to die, it is going to do so because Republicans largely refuse to govern based on evidence and science.

      Fact: if we replaced the American health insurance "system" with Medicare-for-all, then not only will the "millions of people uninsured and the many more millions of people who pay more for less health care" along with the rest of us finally get the kind of health care every other advanced country has, but our deficit and debt problem would be solved, forever.

      •  Only if people keep on believing their hoaxes. (1+ / 0-)
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        godlessmath

        As people wake up, the SOBs are going out of business.

        They think they are gods, because they have been getting away with lying. They're just sociopaths. And not especially "high function" ones at that.

        (Rand Paul getting fired from Moonie Times had to be a shocker for their Believers.)

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