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  •  so you reported facts about campaign donations (32+ / 0-)

    and are now being accused of defamation.
    Maybe Robert Murray should look at his own behavior if he wants the real source of the "defamation."
    Good luck -- we're with you!

    While Democrats work to get more people to vote, Republicans work to ensure those votes won't count.

    by Tamar on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 11:28:55 AM PDT

    •  so it's now defamation to donate to republicans? (15+ / 0-)

      Sounds about right to me. Certainly isn't a point of pride.  How long before someone sues someone else merely for referring to them in public as republican sympathizers?

      A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

      by dougymi on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 12:06:13 PM PDT

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    •  The MO of the coal industry in Appalachia (11+ / 0-)

      has always been brutal and heavy handed.

      Read The Price of Justice by Lewis Lerner for a detailed chronicle of a company that undercut and destroyed competitors and then bought up their interests for a song, refused to honor contracts for coal when it could get a better price elsewhere and bought off lawyers and judges in W Va and KY to enable mountaintop mining and avoid safety regulations for its miners.

      Suing a critic is hardly surprising, unfortunately.  The only happy note here is that economics and technology are gutting the coal industry.  Their supposed CLEAN energy is anything but and now natural gas is replacing it.  The potential risks of fracking are nothing to sniff at, but the burning of gas produces a much smaller carbon footprint than coal, and involves far less chaos in terms of air pollution, water pollution, mining, transport and storage of the coal and of the resulting fly ash.

      Coal is bleating Obama has waged a war on coal, but free market economics (the favorite phrase of barons everywhere) are really the culprit and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of basta...ds

      Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

      by dweb8231 on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 12:47:52 PM PDT

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      •  I think fracking is significantly dangerous, but (3+ / 0-)
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        otherwise agree. What I'd like to see is massive investment in wind & solar energy. My husband and I drove through Scotland and saw some evidence of wind power, but also saw signs in one town boasting how they kept the wind turbines out of their district. Penny-wise and pound foolish. I think the wind turbines are kind of cool looking, mesmerizing, in fact.

        While Democrats work to get more people to vote, Republicans work to ensure those votes won't count.

        by Tamar on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 12:53:33 PM PDT

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        •  As a party.... (2+ / 0-)
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          Democrats need to be pushing job training programs for workers in Appalachia with a focus on alternative energy.  Tis easy and simple to blame Obama as an enemy opposed to coal mining, but economics and the environment are why this is happening.

          If the party is to regain its place as a champion of workers as it did to some degree as a supporter of unions in the mining industry, it needs to recognize the plight of workers who currently have few work alternatives in regions where coal has been THE major source of employment.....and agony, for decades and push real educational programs that help open new opportunities.

          Until they do, it will be easy for the Tea Party to demonize the "War on Coal."

          Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

          by dweb8231 on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 01:51:00 PM PDT

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          •  totally agree with you! It might be hard -- my (2+ / 0-)
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            bet is that wind farms, once they're up and running, are much much less labor intensive than mining. So they'd need to train for all kinds of work and invest in the area to bring in business. The problem is, of course, that coal companies would oppose that kind of investment and the Republicans oppose any real investment.

            While Democrats work to get more people to vote, Republicans work to ensure those votes won't count.

            by Tamar on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 02:02:42 PM PDT

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            •  Coal companies are... (1+ / 0-)
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              energy companies....

              Consol Energy..big here in PA, was and remains a giant in coal, the largest underground coal miner in the country, but has also gotten big in natural gas with reserves exceeding 4 billion cubic feet (Wikipedia).  If and when they wake up to reality and stop trying to deny climate change, they might get invested in alternative energy.

              And EVERY form of energy needs trained people to make it work....electronics transmission systems, computer controls, access roads, construction, repairs and maintenance, home and business unit installations, sales and marketing and on and on.

              Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

              by dweb8231 on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 02:40:27 PM PDT

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              •  we're on the same wavelength. Instead of hanging (1+ / 0-)
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                on to a dying industry (which is killing the planet along with its own death), we should be developing alternatives and training people to manage them, as well as educating people who will find even better alternatives in the future.

                While Democrats work to get more people to vote, Republicans work to ensure those votes won't count.

                by Tamar on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 03:27:53 PM PDT

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