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  •  The problem, of course, is that it is the first (1+ / 0-)
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    headline that counts.  True, false, right or wrong, what makes the news is what people hear and remember.  The explanation is heard or listened to by much fewer people.

    Probably the biggest difference tactically between Dems and Repubs is that the Repubs consistently beat the Dems to the news - to making the news.  They take every scrap of a chance to put it to the Dems and the Dems are nearly always playing defense.  The Dems are not afraid to be outrageous.  What's sad is that the Dems have reality and truth on their side and they use it so ineffectually.

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 03:02:04 PM PDT

    •  It's the media's fault, too, (2+ / 0-)
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      because instead of their constantly asking like Jenkins did this morning, (paraphrased) "Is President Obama concerned that so many people in this country are confused about the ACA?" ... she should have instead looked at the camera and said, "It's up to every American to get a copy of the Affordable Care Act to find out exactly what it offers, instead of always blaming President Obama!"   No, instead she played the "ACA is confusing so it's Obama's fault" game.  And she's not the only one, even Big Ed is damned tired of the liberal media for not messaging the truth about ACA.  He's actually taken the time to try to explain with bullet points what ACA is going to do for this nation.

      I'm so sick and tired of listening to everyone on cable news blaming our President.  There is a fraction in our nation who are too damned lazy, intellectually lazy, to even try to get help to understand this complicated world of insurance and what exchange to apply for, much less take it upon themselves to read and learn what coverage is offered with this new Act.

      Far be it for me to expect citizens to take the responsibility upon themselves, but I do wish the media would clamp down on the dumbed down in this country rather than our President.  And that goes for the GOP who obviously haven't a clue what the ACA has to offer their constituents -- they either haven't read the Act or they are lying, and the media needs to call them out for either or both.

      I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

      by KayCeSF on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 03:53:18 PM PDT

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      •  Reading the Act (0+ / 0-)

        What a fine idea. I'm sure you have already read the act in excruciating detail. For those who haven't yet followed your sterling example, here is a link to the text: http://www.hhs.gov/...

        A mere 2407 pages of pure golden insight as to what to do. Thanks for the suggestion.

        •  Oh well, of course not. (1+ / 0-)
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          Excuse my misrepresentation of what I've done or anyone should do with that 2407 pages.  But I meant to say, get on healthcare.gov and read and learn how the Act benefits insureds.  I doubt some people would read it in cartoon frames.  

          Except, maybe our Congress Critters should damn well read all 2407 pages.  They should have before it was passed.

          I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

          by KayCeSF on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 05:19:56 PM PDT

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          •  asdf... (1+ / 0-)
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            Peruse a few of the above commenter's other remarks. Deliberate provocateur, with a side of semi-trolltastic. FYI...

            Ho'oponopono. To make things right; restore harmony; heal.

            by earicicle on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 05:24:49 PM PDT

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            •  I'm sorry you can't tell the difference (0+ / 0-)

              between longterm pissed off and a provocateur or troll. Work on it, in the moments when insular self-satisfaction flags (if any)

              In this particular case, I can truly say that that just about everything about the ACA is pretty much what I expected. That's an opinion I make no secret of. It will come as a terrible shock to the monomaniacal, but one actually can be in favor of national health insurance and at the same time see Obamacare as a crappy program, crappily executed.

              •  So the tens of millions of people whose lives are (1+ / 0-)
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                changed, some even saved, by this first step...what about them? The first step is too sucky for you, so just fuck 'em?

                Perspective. Get some.

                Ho'oponopono. To make things right; restore harmony; heal.

                by earicicle on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 05:40:55 PM PDT

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                •  Thank you, earicicle. (1+ / 0-)
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                  ,)

                  I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

                  by KayCeSF on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 05:58:55 PM PDT

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                •  Thank you, earicicle! (1+ / 0-)
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                  ,)

                  I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

                  by KayCeSF on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 05:59:42 PM PDT

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                •  On the assumption (0+ / 0-)

                  that anything is better than nothing, sure. But that's not a good assumption.

                  I actually think that Obamacare is worse than nothing, and the claim of some number of lives saved (really? tens of millions who would otherwise have died? tens of millions! Get a grip!) is about as balanced as praising Fascism under Mussolini because he got the trains to run on time and brought some corporations to heel. It's worse than nothing because everything about its origins and rollout has set up the brouhaha now in progress, which IMO is going to so poison an already-poisonous atmosphere that the current shaky floor is going to become a permanent ceiling. As i said, a crappy program, crappily enacted and executed, ending in good legislation driving out bad.

        •  Gee, I'm sure there's no convenient source of (1+ / 0-)
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          information at your fingertips where, over the past three years, you could have found some sort of accurate summary about what the ACA is all about. Some sort of 'web' of information.

          Too bad, that.

          Ho'oponopono. To make things right; restore harmony; heal.

          by earicicle on Fri Nov 01, 2013 at 05:23:33 PM PDT

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