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    •  Hey, tuffie: (8+ / 0-)

      We don't need another War Between the States complete with cannons and jets.

      Considering that you may have thought you were making a joke, let me just remind you of ONE battle's worth of carnage during the last such conflict.

      The notion that we could "pretty please" waste as many lives here in the US in a day as the NATO troops lost during the current conflict in the Middle East OUGHT to shock and appall you -- and suggesting we should do so in such a snarky tone as you have chosen says an awful lot about the kind of American, let alone human being, you allegedly are.

      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Mon Nov 04, 2013 at 09:21:48 AM PST

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      •  difference is we cut off federal payments (8+ / 0-)

        and they starve

      •  Yeah. Whatever. Because I want a new Civil War. (7+ / 0-)

        Geezus ... are you serious?

        I said Lincoln blew it and he did.  Had he let them secede, there might not have been a first Civil War and we'd be rid of that benighted region.  Including your wonderful Texas.  Somehow we would have made up the difference.

        On that, I am semi-serious.

        'The kind of American, let alone human being' I am.

        Christ, lighten the fuck up.

        •  Yeah, i'm serious: bloodshed and grief (2+ / 0-)
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          is nothing to joke about.

          Take the rest of your bigotry and shove it where the sun won't shine. It'll go good with your attitude (and your rectocranial inversion syndrome).

          LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

          by BlackSheep1 on Mon Nov 04, 2013 at 09:51:33 AM PST

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          •  BlackSheep1 (0+ / 0-)

            Give it up now while you're far behind.  You're embarrassing yourself and other Southerners.

            •  so to you there was no grief or bloodshed (0+ / 0-)

              among the Yankee troops or their families? Wow.

              LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

              by BlackSheep1 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 10:26:29 AM PST

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              •  Weren't federal troops used to enforce... (0+ / 0-)

                ...school desegregation? Ike sent in the Screaming Eagles to counter the National Guard sent to block the Little Rock Nine. Yes, secession has been a threat used in our past, but through the mediation of Henry Clay and the command of a 1950s GOP President, we've only had 1 Civil War. The South lost the last one and should they decide to "Rise Again," we might just let them. Means a lot less use of our troops once Global Warming floods all of Florida and much of the Missippi Valley! Great way to save tax dollars, since they get more money than they pay out!

        •  Lincoln did not blow it. (3+ / 0-)
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          You merely prove you do not know anything about him.
          Moreover, we are in a Cold Civil War today.

          "It ain't over till it's over."-Yogi Berra

          by mock38 on Mon Nov 04, 2013 at 10:43:02 AM PST

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        •  Agree with Blacksheep (3+ / 0-)
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          Christ, lighten the fuck up.
          And I quoted the above bit of text from you because I've noticed that it is never a good sign when people post offensive comments and then respond by suggesting that those who were offended lack a sense of humor.

          Adding expletives to that bit of "advice" further amplifies that point, and not in your favor.

          Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

          by TexasTom on Mon Nov 04, 2013 at 10:59:13 AM PST

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          •  Texas Tomb (0+ / 0-)

            And we're supposed to heed YOUR advice, right?  Mehhhh.. I think I'll pass.  Texas has a big problem.  Mexico doesn't want you... they have enough problems.  Canada doesn't want you... they're too intelligent to take on troublemakers.  I think you should just stay where you are, be quiet, and quit embarrassing yourself!

        •  And let them remain a slave power? (2+ / 0-)
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          That's just disgusting.  Lincoln did right to fight the war and abolish slavery.  

          But now I'd be more amenable to letting the leave, as long as we pull all federal funding.  If these fuckers secede, I do not one fucking cent of my taxes going to them.

          "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

          by Subterranean on Mon Nov 04, 2013 at 11:01:24 AM PST

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          •  The states are too economically interdependent... (0+ / 0-)

            ...for a breakup to work now.  It would be a disaster all around.  Moreover, the North would be faced with a massive refugee crisis as people who don't want to live in an unrestrained South flee by the thousands if not millions.  And at some point, the border would have to be sealed.  Wouldn't it be ironic if the North had to build a wall to keep Southerners out?

            •  Borders sealed??? (0+ / 0-)

              Just what gives you the idea that Northerners, Easterners, Westerners, et al, would be opening their arms to the very people that aren't happy with the USA as it is???!  Nooo way, Jóse!!!  No settling for the crankies on ANY US soil.  Why on earth would one invite cancer into a clean body when it has just survived a heart transplant?
              No, we're smarter than that!!!  You scoot, you scoot!  For good, not just a vacation!

            •  Building a wall (0+ / 0-)

              No walls.  No immigration from the South to the North.  They have full use of the seaports to move anywhere they want.  Not a problem... call Jóse's Moving Services... fast, dependable, reliable.

        •  Thanks a lot, my ancestors would still be slaves. (1+ / 0-)
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      •  Hey, Black Sheep - in regard to hey, Tuffie (1+ / 0-)
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        Secede is not the same as Civil War.   Yes, the Civil War was horrid (and, interestingly, odd to see so many people in the South hold re-enactment events...and continue to fly the Confederate flag)....

        But perhaps we have come to a point where clearly a number of Southern States do not want to be a part of the Union (except to get back more tax funds than they pay in).

        Would it be so bad to let them go?    I have often wondered this.    I would feel sorry for their populations (I feel sorry for them already) and would expect a mass exodus of several groups...but if those states wish to live in an imaginary past world.... I say let them.    And let the rest of us move forward.

        We could also entertain restoring statehood if they wished - and if they met the requirements - you know - supporting the law of the land.

      •  BlackSheep is a good-fitting name (0+ / 0-)

        It would stand to reason that these nematodes shouldn't even be mentioned, much less tolerated.  Either toe the line or move your butts off USA soil.  Islands are relatively cheap today... IF one can find one big enough for sale.  Something to ponder.

        •  DarthEvaderCheney: (0+ / 0-)

          you take your bigotry and shove it, too.

          LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

          by BlackSheep1 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 10:25:33 AM PST

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