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  •  Ah, but the top officers, the AGs, are political! (2+ / 0-)
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    Some have pretty marginal military qualifications for the assumed rank they hold as seen in this comment I made a few minutes ago. The NG has long been a cesspool of state politics and, particularly in the South due to such nasty federal requirements as there are, states have often formed true state militias without federal funding:

    The SCSG acts in a support role for the National Guard, law enforcement and other state, county and municipal agencies during times of emergency. The State Guard is managed by the South Carolina Military Department under the direction of the Adjutant General. Its Commander in Chief is the governor of the State of South Carolina.
    Not all are "anti federal" in nature or are in the South and they have their own association, but some of the deep red state gurards have taken on a distinctly neo Confederate taint.

    The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

    by pelagicray on Mon Nov 04, 2013 at 09:47:51 AM PST

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    •  But, if they get Federalized... (0+ / 0-)

      the Chain of Command becomes Federal, Gov is no longer C in C, the Pres is.  The AG gets to carry off the Governor in his chair if so ordered.  

      As a practical matter, it won't happen with this administration. Rest assured that pressure will be applied.

      ... the watchword of true patriotism: "Our country - when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right." - Carl Schurz; Oct. 17, 1899

      by NevDem on Mon Nov 04, 2013 at 11:39:28 AM PST

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      •  Not sure the AG was federalized in the old (0+ / 0-)

        desegregation cases. The active units and their officers, generally a bit more tied to the "real" military than the political AGs, were. Have to check. There would be no need to include the AG. They are not federalized when NG units deploy in our recent wars. Note that the issue given by one state, Mississippi I believe, was "state property" for those armories and that could get a bit entangled in "property rights" legal battles.

        Since even the jumped up politicos that have been appointed to some, as with Georgia, it might be possible to recall them to active duty in some cases and then see what happens. Deploy them as an "Army of one" with a sidearm to Kandahar Province maybe? Air deploy them sans chute from 10,000 feet? Seriously, I doubt it will take those types of drastic actions.

        The millions in funds are good leverage and can even "become an issue" without a lot of formal action if people start putting their minds to making delay the deadliest form of denial. "Sorry, the shutdown . . . bogged down . . . paperwork . . . it may be lost . . ."

        The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

        by pelagicray on Mon Nov 04, 2013 at 12:09:15 PM PST

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