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  •  On a federal or state wide level, you're right. (4+ / 0-)

    But here in NC in 2012 Dems turned out fully 1% more than Reps statewide and we STILL got hammered in legislative and Congressional races.  And then there was McCrony.  FSM knows how bad things had to be for that abomination to happen.  Unfortunately, Dems here tend to "vote the man not the party" and the Dem running for the governor's mansion was well and truly overmatched.  This was not entirely his fault, but McCrony could not have won the margin he did without a lot of fence jumping by NC Dems.

    I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

    by mojo11 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 07:29:13 AM PST

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    •  To be fair the redrawn districts contributed (4+ / 0-)

      mightily to that.  The Dem party here in NC was complacent and disorganized.  Art Pope and the Koch brothers saw that and saw an opportunity.  McCrory lied.  He hid his true nature.  We've got to do a better job of convincing people that there are no longer any moderate Republicans.  That is going to be our number one task with Christie.

      "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

      by stellaluna on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 08:00:31 AM PST

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      •  And I think we're well on our way (1+ / 0-)
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        Sure, a lot of Republicans ran uncontested in NC, as usual, but both the recent elections in Wake County and the one last night also saw the return of Democrats to some key local positions. And, man, that Fayetteville race for mayor was close! I never thought a Democrat would even have a chance in that town right now.

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        by moviemeister76 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 08:48:16 AM PST

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        •  Fayetteville is a strange creature (1+ / 0-)
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          It's easy to think it would be deep red because of Ft. Bragg, but the military personnel are mostly non-residents so they don't have much of an effect on the state/local races.  Fayetteville itself has a heavy minority population, so the demographics favor a Democrat, but once you get outside the city limits all bets are off.  A progressive Dem might struggle there, which is why Mike McIntyre is the best the NCDP could do for that district (which also includes several other deep red counties).  McIntyre is as close to the DINO prototype as you're likely to find, and even then he only squeaked out a runoff win in 2012.

          As for McCrony lying about his true nature, I'm not sure he HAS a true nature.  What he's using as a substitute as governor is Art Pope's true nature.  He's a total tool in every sense of the word, but prevailing sentiment seems to suggest that the voting public is onto him.  Even in his own party voters are getting disgusted, so look for that to be corrected in 2016.  Especially if Roy Cooper takes up the challenge.  Those two really REALLY don't like each other, so it should be an entertaining contest that ends with Cooper kicking McCrony's ass all the way back to Charlotte.

          I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

          by mojo11 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:51:44 AM PST

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      •  Christie is far from a moderate and I cringe (0+ / 0-)

        when the media yapigentisia (to steal a great new word from Crashing Vor's diary) say that he is. He is very right wing, not to mention hypocritical as well. There were many, many things the DNC could have hit him with had they decided to back Buono rather than sitting it out. It was, if nothing else, an opportunity to begin weakening Christie's image for 2016.

        It's also rather shocking how many dems and dem-leaning indys must have voted for Christie because exit polls that asked voters whether they'd favor Hillary or Christie in 2016 showed Clinton winning that matchup.

        •  I see Christie as Romenybot 2.0 (0+ / 0-)

          but with more of a personality. Which is to say, he has one.  But as long as Rinse-O is running the show, he's going to be hamstrung by his platform.  He'll have the same problem RMoney® did, having to tack back to the center in the general election after going full-on RWNJ to survive the primaries.

          Scariest thing about Christie is that he might have mass appeal among the blue collar voters, especially in the Midwest and the redder districts of the Northeast.  But if he can't swing the Deep South (possible since he is a Yankee after all) his chances get dramatically worse.

          I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

          by mojo11 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 10:57:56 AM PST

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          •  Agree with "with more of a personality" (0+ / 1-)
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            if by that you mean "he screams at teachers" instead of "wants to fire Big Bird."

            Sadly, wanting to fire Big Bird was somehow easier for us to make a meme out of.

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            by jan4insight on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 11:48:11 AM PST

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            •  Well... Big Bird notwithstanding (1+ / 0-)
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              it would be difficult to have LESS of a personality than RMoneyBot 1.0®.  A "xeno with a toast family"*.

              *(to avoid Randian accusations) Michael Constantine, My Big Fat Greek Wedding

              I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

              by mojo11 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 12:07:48 PM PST

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