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  •  BlackSheep1, your stove-alternative posts (2+ / 0-)

    are very informative and well-written.  Thanks for sharing them.

    For homeless folks, I can see where your methods would be very useful.  But a housed person (like me) would have other concerns: fire or eviction.

    In my HUD housing complex, all the buildings are 2-level, the upper pats having a woodend deck, the lowers having a concret slab patio.  In theory, your methods could be safely used on the concrete slab, but I would worry about using them on wood. (But maybe that's just me.)

    But beyond my worry, they could run afoul of lease/houserules and/or local Fire Codes -- either of which could be cause for eviction.  A few years ago, my complex cracked down on using grills on patios/decks, citing the Fire Code and stating plainly that they now view grill use as grounds for eviction.  I can very well imagine they would evict for any fire-based cooking method.

    I have something, purchased years ago, that would be too clunky and theft-prone (and with operating costs, after purchase) that I've kept in case of emergency.  It's a portable stove (found at a local Korean-run market serving our international community).  It's a sturdy molded plastic case which opens to reveal one gas 'stovetop' burner.  It runs on hairspray-sized cans of compressed fuel, and has an auto-starter (which doesn't work well, so I used matches to light in for the few days I had to use it, before I lived here).  I keep it for true emergency use, like if (gods forbid!) the New Madrid fault opens up and I'm without power.

    If one were to use something like this, safety procedures for both open-flame and carbon monoxide risks would have to be in place.  And since the fuel-cans don't last terribly long, fuel-conservation methods would help, such as heating a day's worth of coffee-water with a 2-3 level bamboo heater stacked on top, cooking other things.

    Drawbacks, including costs, with this method, but I offer it in case someone might find it helpful.

    •  I have a cheat for dorm living too (2+ / 0-)
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      CroneWit, Horace Boothroyd III

      it's the clothes iron.

      Where you live, would a crock-pot or hot-plate be allowed?

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      by BlackSheep1 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 04:45:44 PM PST

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      •  Electric appliances OK, maybe not hot-plate (2+ / 0-)

        I'm in HUD housing, with stove/fridge provided.  I'd have to check on hot-plates, but unless electricity goes I'm ok.

        I've seen the trick of grilled-cheese sandwiches made with an iron.  Do you have other recipes?

        •  You can use the iron, propped on bricks or (2+ / 0-)
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          CroneWit, Horace Boothroyd III

          books wrapped in foil, like a hot-plate to heat foods in pans or even to boil water in a suitable reservoir. If you have a heavy enough pan you can use it as if it were a slow-cooker.

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          by BlackSheep1 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 06:20:36 PM PST

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          •  wow! Using an iron like that, though I'd sure (2+ / 0-)

            I'd sure want to be there to keep an eye on it!  Very interesting!

            •  ok, what you do is, (1+ / 0-)
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              CroneWit

              you take an UNPOWERED iron and lay it upside-down on a level surface, so the flat of the soleplate is facing upward.

              Now you wrap books in foil or find clean bricks and use them to hold it in place (think leveling blocks/ doorstops), and arrange them so the cord comes out a gap between two and the whole upper surface is as level as possible.

              NOW you plug it in, turn it on and adjust the temp. You don't want steam. "Cotton" or "Linen" settings are usually best if you're using it to imitate a hotplate.

              It should probably not be used with cast iron utensils.

              LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

              by BlackSheep1 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 08:39:30 PM PST

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