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  •  'Waste and land use'... (1+ / 0-)
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    julesrules39

    Are those regulations largely state or federal level?

    If they're state level, then most of the red states and even some of the purple ones can continue to allow their land and water to be ever-more befouled in the name of profit.

    The Chinese are responding to their own internal pressures, to practice NIMBY agriculture, just as they're NIMBYizing coal production.

    Does the US have much room to talk?  Not really.  We've been every bit as bad to other nations in our turn.

    But we need to start reining in 'big ag' and 'big energy' in ways that mean we face the climate costs we've long ignored.  And meat production carries a lot of ignored costs.

    •  No, it's not NIMBY at all. (1+ / 0-)
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      The Chinese are responding to their own internal pressures, to practice NIMBY agriculture, just as they're NIMBYizing coal production.
      The Chinese are responding to the fact their food supply chains are suspect, in a country that is rapidly urbanizing and needs longer and trustworthy food supply chains.

      "Made in America" is a sign of food safety.

      The month my wife and I moved to Beijing in 2004, I saw a bag of oatmeal at our local grocery store prominently labeled: “NOT POLLUTED!” How funny that this would be a selling point, we thought.

      But 7 years later as we prepared to return to the US, what was once a joke had become a useful market signal and part of an arsenal of strategies we hoped would limit the risks of encountering tainted food. We ate less fish, which might be raised in polluted waters. We bought vegetables and fruit at Jia Le Fu (Carrefour) or Wo Er Ma (Wal-Mart) on the theory that international brands might have stronger quality controls. We never drank water from the tap, boiled or not. But recent news of problems at Wal-mart, Nongfu Springs (a bottled water company), and a host of other places suggests just how unreliable our strategies might have been.

      http://www.chinafile.com/...

      If you have a policy that covers doctor's bills made necessary by a werewolf bite, and has the words "Health Insurance" on the cover, you can keep that policy!

      by Inland on Tue Nov 19, 2013 at 09:19:29 AM PST

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    •  There are both federal and state regulations (1+ / 0-)
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      governing process wastewater under the Clean
      Water Act for large CAFO operations.

    •  GOP is trying to override state Regs (1+ / 0-)
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      of blue state rules they don't like by changing the Fed Farm Bill.  

      Are those regulations largely state or federal level?
       While the GOP screams "state's rights" when it suits them, now they're claiming violation of interstate commerce against those states that have stricter farming rules than others.

      My Karma just ran over your Dogma

      by FoundingFatherDAR on Tue Nov 19, 2013 at 11:53:41 AM PST

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