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  •  It's a vicious cycle (or is that circle?) (3+ / 0-)
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    mconvente, pelagicray, fcvaguy

    Youth don't go out and vote
    So Dems don't go out and talk with youth because they don't vote
    So Youth doesn't vote
    So Dems don't go out and talk ....... (into infinity)

    But much of this is due to the fact that Civics Education has been removed from core curricula. Youth doesn't understand their responsibilities and doesn't understand the dangers of not participating.

    And since Youth usually votes Democratic, who's going to get dinged when Youth doesn't understand why they need to turn out?  

    And this is exactly the way the repubs want it, cuz for them, ignorance is undeniably bliss.

    •  Maybe Democrats need to be the adults then. (1+ / 0-)
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      Youth don't go out and vote
      So Dems don't go out and talk with youth because they don't vote
      So Youth doesn't vote
      So Dems don't go out and talk
      and break the cycle.

      Also campaigning isn't enough. Democratic office holders need to craft Progressive, popular legislation and ensure there are votes held on it. Even if the votes lose.

      Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses où des hommes accrédités ont tort. - Voltaire
      Don't trust anyone over 84414 - BentLiberal

      by BentLiberal on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 01:07:55 PM PST

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      •  It's not simply a matter of being the adult (3+ / 0-)
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        fcvaguy, Larsstephens, Minnesota Deb

        If Youth doesn't learn early it's in their best interest to pay attention, you can talk to them til you blue in the face and won't get through.  And how do you communicate with them, if they don't want to be communicated with?

        Civics Education must be brought back to the classrooms.  It's the way to reach the largest (captive) audience. It's the subject of my husband's dissertation, and seems like common sense.  Statistics show that children who learned civics in school were much more likely to be active voters when they became of age, as were children of parents who were civically active.  Much harm was done to this country once schools began removing Civics from their core corricula.

    •  Bingo! I do talk to young voters and the DO NOT (2+ / 0-)
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      get it for the most part. I find a few that do, a few I can convince, but most just glaze over. Civics 101 lessons are incomprehensible for most. Our senior high school  class civics (required to graduate and last of a full subject in 5th and 7th grades and following required "Government" in 11th) teacher taught on a level most college courses I've observed since can't match—and she was in a middling sized Southern town. All who wanted, and all did, filled out voter registration forms as a class at the registrar's office (Bet that was not the case over at the segregated and very non equal "Negro school"!).

      I think there is a second reason. Coming from a time most of "the young" (and for me that includes almost under 50!) simply do not grasp I have come to believe much has to do with their living in a world that, except for a tough economy now, has fairly few practical and gut level reality checks and threats. Flunk out of college and get your head shaved, uniform issued and basic? What is "flunk out"? What is "basic"? Did they really shave your head?

      Young people work in a paper shuffling or service economy for the most part now. How many understand what happens on an assembly line when there is a screw up by someone up the line? How many know deep down that unless we all work together to save this ship, or just harvest the hay before the storm, disaster and not just a paper glitch will happen? Not many I've found.

      Don't show up for an election and "shit happens" but I don't think many connect the cumulative effect of that stuff happening with their economic woes or the other practical effects.

      The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

      by pelagicray on Wed Nov 06, 2013 at 01:43:02 PM PST

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