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  •  The Dolphins have told the team to stick together. (22+ / 0-)

    and that is what they are doing. Nobody should be surprised by this. It's what they were ordered to do.

    What I find most telling is that Incognito has been suspended or let go by EVERY TEAM he's ever played for over disciplinary reasons.

    •  The Bills dumped him for disciplinary reasons? (3+ / 0-)
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      stagemom, white blitz, mookins

      Had a hunch that was the reason--got a link?

    •  Why do we always suppose that people who (3+ / 0-)
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      FG, RhodeIslandAspie, lordcopper

      disagree with what we think have been "ordered" to think that way?  Isn't it possible these players, black and white, veteran and young players, simply believe Incognito wasn't harassing Martin in the same way we do?  Isn't it possible that this type of thing occurs throughout the NFL?  That's it's a institutionalized culture we simply didn't realize existed?  If a player breaks with the rest, does that make his statement more accurate.  I would argue if a player wanted to support Martin, now would be the time.  he would be embraced by the media and society as a hero.  Now would be the easiest time.  But no one has.  That tells me something.  I've heard players say these two were very close.  Basically best friends.  That they are very confused.  Isn't it possible everyone is speaking the truth?  I simply believe there is a culture in the NFL that is far different from what we deem acceptable.  we are now simply learning about it.  We can call for the firing of everyone involved, but nothing will change.  what needs to be done is to understand how a culture like this can exist.  How something like this can go on for years and no one says a thing.  Possibly, if we could understand how this occurs at the highest levels of sports, we could put into place practices that would stop it from occurring at a grade school or high school level. That is the only way to truly stop this type of culture from becoming embedded.  To make it unacceptable a beginning levels so players/coaches won't accept it later in life.  

    •  According to the players (0+ / 0-)

      The Dolphins told them to say nothing and they are choosing to speak.  I tend to believe that they are disobeying the wishes of coaching/management and that this isn't part of a narrative that the team is crafting for media consumption.

    •  The Dolphins have a management problem: (0+ / 0-)
      One thing is for sure, what has become more evident over the last few days is how absolutely clueless Miami Dolphins owner Steven Ross is. The reason I say that is because if he knew, or cared, about achieving success on the field, he would have replaced the man responsible for bad drafts, questionable signings and a coaching staff who can’t feel the pulse of its own locker room if it were an actual beating heart. ....snip...  Nevertheless, the Dolphins were once a storied franchise and Ross has attempted to welcome the celebrities into the world of football instead of reintroducing winning ways to the team’s fan base.

      He was conned out of millions of dollars by Bill Parcells when he first purchased the team heading into the 2009 season. Parcells’ decisions are still debilitating this franchise because the man he brought in to be the general manager, Jeff Ireland, who asked current Dallas Cowboy wide receiver Dez Bryant if his mom was a hooker, is still there.


      There's something really wrong in Miami.

      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 11:38:37 AM PST

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