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  •  Goodbye Flash, so sad to see you go. nt (4+ / 0-)
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    Just another underemployed IT professional computer geek.

    by RhodeIslandAspie on Thu Nov 07, 2013 at 07:31:19 PM PST

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    •  Interesting (2+ / 0-)
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      Browsers are gatekeepers of the aesthetic experience o the Web the way that critics, curators and gallery owners are in the Art World™. If browsers won't accept Flash, it is essentially dead, the way Damien Hirst was when he pissed everyone off by attempting to paint. When he went back to pickling cows and building their feet, the Art World™ was happy.
      I guess my question is, what did Flash do to critics and developers that pissed them off so much that they designed incompatible browsers?

      “The universe implodes. No matter.” -Liam Williams

      by northsylvania on Fri Nov 08, 2013 at 12:40:30 AM PST

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      •  Flash is a flicking pain in the butt (4+ / 0-)

        And the bigger and more dynamic the site, the bigger of a pain it is.

        Making even the simplest change becomes an exercise in frustration, and woe to you if you don't have the original file and the version it was created in.

        Flash menus are the absolute worst. Good thing few use them anymore.

      •  It basically broke Chrome for me. (6+ / 0-)

        I have weird browsing habits. One of them is to keep lots of pages open in lots of tabs at the same time, all the time. The number of sites that used unnecessary Flash caused my 2007 system to grind to a halt because of all the memory and CPU they gobbled up. When I'd get the "Shockwave Flash is not responding" message, I'd kill it, watch two-thirds of my open pages go "broken," and feel the increase in speed as all the needless ballast was cut away.

        "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

        by Geenius at Wrok on Fri Nov 08, 2013 at 05:33:23 AM PST

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        •  Well, if you're weird (3+ / 0-)
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          then I guess I'm weird, too.

          The way I look at it, the very nature of browsing requires keeping many pages open in many tabs.  There are several sites I want quick access to at all times and are therefore routinely kept open.  Then there are pages linked to by other pages.  I want to keep the original page open, so I open the new page in a new tab for future reference.  

          Then pretty soon I have a gazillion little tabs to look at as I please.

          Is there any other way to "browse?"

          I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome while trying to succeed. ~~ Booker T. Washington

          by Prickly Pam on Fri Nov 08, 2013 at 07:08:35 AM PST

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      •  It is a usability/accessibility nightmare (2+ / 0-)
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        wyckoff, northsylvania

        and while it has a role to play in specific circumstances, when your site's content is buried and invisible in an animation, it isn't good news.

    •  Flash was decemt at first, (2+ / 0-)
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      when it was it was simple, and didn't use a lot of resources. I never cared about the control it takes from the user, particularly the option of right clicking to bring up a context menu. I always resented that I could not right click to open in a new tab or window. But it was, in the begging a very efficient way to provide animation and multimedia through a web browser.

      Then it became a nightmare. Constant crashes, especially if you are like me, and like to have lot of ope tabs at at time. For the DK alone, I usually have three or four tabs open so I can track the front page, diaries, and my comments all at once. Lots of tabs open with flash running on one or more tabs can get ugly quickly.

      Just another underemployed IT professional computer geek.

      by RhodeIslandAspie on Fri Nov 08, 2013 at 10:46:27 AM PST

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