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  •  It is hard to believe that I need to spell this (4+ / 0-)

    out for you, but apparently I do.

    "She's really got balls!"
    "He needs to get some balls!"

    both imply that balls=courage. By that equation, they also implicitly state that women don't have courage.

    Expressions like "bust his balls" express animosity towards someone, because the testicles are very fragile. I have never seen the expression used about a woman, but the metaphorical sense would transfer.

    Using "bust X's balls" is a vivid but very crude way to express animosity; it derives from the real fragility of the testicles.

    Using "X has balls" for courage uses a false equivalence, one that reflects centuries, millenia of misogyny.

    To answer your question explicitly:

    Do you think it would be appropriate for somebody to make an allusion to a female sexual organ as part of an argument or discussion in this forum?
    Only if the discussion involved childbirth, rape or some other process that takes place there.

    Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

    by Wee Mama on Fri Nov 08, 2013 at 05:08:57 PM PST

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    •  Interesting. So by hiding behind the shield of (1+ / 0-)
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      political correctness when it comes to misogyny, you feel free to offend at will and with total impunity by making actual references to my balls, and how it is okay to talk about busting them or not, and make references to balls/testicles being "fragile," and doing all of it claiming that it is you that's showing courage!

      That is truly amazing!

      I'm moving on... I thought I just would point out the low-brow crassness of it all when I read your post referring to my testicles; I thought at least I had that right since you were so inclined on making that comment, and have now dug in deeper into even crassness.

      Again, I'll leave it in the hands of the moderators.

      •  Ray, I never made any mention of any of your (6+ / 0-)

        body parts. That expression started far up the thread, and I referred to the comment. I was responding to someone who thought that all uses of the word "balls" had been put off limits.

        I think the idioms involving balls vary in their usefulness. All of them are quite a bit cruder than I am likely to use except under extreme provocation. But I wasn't endorsing their use as good or particularly appropriate; I was pointing out that only one particular idiom, the one associating balls with courage, has been deprecated. That usage reflects misogyny by implying that women lack courage.

        Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

        by Wee Mama on Fri Nov 08, 2013 at 05:27:01 PM PST

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      •  Oh, and on re-reading this comment, (4+ / 0-)

        if you truly think that objecting to the balls=courage equation is

        hiding behind the shield of political correctness when it comes to misogyny,
        you really, really don't understand why people, not just women, object to this usage.

        Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

        by Wee Mama on Fri Nov 08, 2013 at 08:50:43 PM PST

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        •  You probably won't see this but... (4+ / 0-)

 of the most compelling reasons I read here on DK about why it is offensive to use the phrase "grow a pair" or "he lacks balls", especially in reference to any black man, is because of the history of castration used in racial violence. It wasn't until I read it hear that I understood what a POC was thinking about when they heard the phrase. For that reason, I have been way more aware of not using this phrase.

          I get that saying someone has balls to stand in for courage and someone is a pussy to mean they are a coward is implying something bad about women. That one is less of a trigger for me, but understood why it is offensive. There is a whole lot of words or phrases in this kind of a gray area for me, but saying Obama needs to grow a pair is not at all a gray area.

          You see things; and you say “Why?” But I dream things that never were; and I say “Why not?” --George Bernard Shaw, JFK, RFK

          by CenPhx on Sat Nov 09, 2013 at 12:01:21 PM PST

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