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  •  Public education is just another pile of money (21+ / 0-)

    that evil rich people want to steal.

    Evil in America is winning.

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Fri Nov 08, 2013 at 07:58:51 AM PST

    •  But if we didn't have charter schools like that .. (4+ / 0-)

      ... and if we couldn't force the poor to give birth, or deny them any help while they grow up hungry and impoverished, we would have to pay to have our slaves shipped into this country instead of harvest them ourselves from pure white Christian American stock!

      Then where would we be?

    •  True that (8+ / 0-)

      I have been saying for years that charter schools and voucher programs are just a way to transfer education dollars from everyone to a selected few.  People counter with open admission and help every parent afford private school.  I counter with requirement that filter out unwanted students and races, which is well documented, and the good private schools , that everyone wants to go to, can charge arbitrarily high rates so that vouchers do not matter.  For instance, when a school charges tuition and fees are $25K a year, there is little that keeps from raising prices to 30K a year to keep vouchers from making a difference.  Parents will find the money to keep their kids in.

      What these school will effect are the lower level private schools and new school like charters who have no real intention of educating, just luring the white middle and lwoer middle class.  I went to one of these school for a couple years.  The purpose was to segregate, and as soon as this was realized I went to a better public school.  That private school was the first of a very times that whites were a clear majority in my school.

      The other problem, as noted, however, is very real.  These schools tend to take the easiest and cheapest students to educate.  Unlike advanced academic public schools, they do not tend to put the money saved into additional resources.  So the public schools are going to have to educate the more challenging students, which frankly is their job, but it is going to look like public schools are less efficient because the cost per student will go up.

      •  I saw this movie years ago. (4+ / 0-)

        In Philadelphia 1970s and 1980s I attended nearly all-white elementary and high schools, only we didn't call them charter schools, we called them Catholic schools. The majority of the middle class white population in the City of Philadelphia was Catholic and for the most part Catholics didn't use the public school system. As a result of this segregation, the public schools became a dumping ground for the kids that didn't matter. Now the children and grandchildren of those same white Catholic families have moved out of the city so that the next generation can attend nearly all-white public schools in the suburbs. Now the City of Philadelphia is two cities in one: middle class and affluent white people who either don't have school age children or who pay tuition for private school, and the mostly non-white poor people who are stuck using lousy public schools.

        "For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream shall never die." --Senator Ted Kennedy

        by Blue Silent Majority on Sat Nov 09, 2013 at 03:21:29 PM PST

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        •  Catholic Schools sprung up because of Protestants (1+ / 0-)
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          While the defacto result in 1970s and1980s was what you describe, there were valid reasons for the parochial school systems in the US.  In the 1930s my mom was subjected to Protestant evangelizing in her New Jersey public school, so as soon as her parents could afford to, they put her in the local parish school.

          •  Things change over time (1+ / 0-)
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            You make a good point about the history of Catholic parochial schools. I think the best way to look at the issue is that over the years Catholic parents sent their kids to parochial school for a number of different reasons. It just unfortunate that in the latter years Catholic Schools became a means of defacto segregation.

            "For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream shall never die." --Senator Ted Kennedy

            by Blue Silent Majority on Sat Nov 09, 2013 at 05:34:02 PM PST

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