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  •  He did say that (8+ / 0-)

    Which raised 2 questions -- (1) why was he saying they're not racist, if that's what they would do?; and (2) why did he call those "conventional" views?

    It may or may not be fair to ascribe "racism" to Cohen, but he was certainly ascribing racist attitudes to Tea Party types and "cultural conservatives." They're the ones who ought to be offended, unless he was spot on. THe weird thing is he doesn't see that as racism, even though it's the purest form of racism.

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    by FischFry on Tue Nov 12, 2013 at 02:44:18 PM PST

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    •  Exactly. (13+ / 0-)

      Nothing about Cohen's "explanation" makes sense. As I understand it, he's saying that he was "talking about Tea Party extremism" and that's why he's not racist.

      Next question for Richard Cohen: do you think that gagging over a photo of an interracial family is a racist reaction? Yes? Then contrary to the assertion in your column, you are saying that the GOP/Tea Party (indistinguishable) is racist. No, you don't think it's a racist reaction? Then you are racist.

      There's no third option. In which way would you like to proceed?

      •  You're overstating the case (0+ / 0-)

        Despite the best efforts of lots of people -- here and on other sites, including comments to WaPo -- the only fair reading of his piece is that he was talking about (his sense of) others' views, not his own. So, that part of his explanation makes sense. The "outrage" over that is typical of the ginned up crap that proliferates in the blogosphere, both right and left.

        I'd say that it's not fair to say that the GOP and Tea Party are indistinguishable. The latter is a subset of the former. That was the underlying assumption of the piece, and it's true. However, it's bizarre that he portrays cultural conservatives as having this racist reaction and yet says they're not racist. Defies common sense. He offends these folks by implying they're racist and then offends logic by saying they're not racist.

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        by FischFry on Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 05:21:36 AM PST

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        •  Prove to me how the Republican (0+ / 0-)

          Party doesn't ascribe to the TP POV. By using vote counts, if you will, which is where the rhetorical rubber meets the reality road. If you can do that, then your point about Cohen's distinctions is meaningful. If not, then not.

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          by bryduck on Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 11:56:27 AM PST

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    •  Cohen lives in a retro-world (0+ / 0-)

      I wrote a comment suggesting that "true conservatism", according to his criteria, would be for Native Americans to feel that all European refugees should be helped to return to their native lands, leaving America to bask in its conventionality.  Not the Euro-centric version that basks in its own self-love, but the truer, more traditional Americans.

      Obviously I was tossing some snark in his direction, but the problem is that he can spout classist, racist, socially prejudiced garbage, without a clue how it sounds to the American people who actually live in the present, in 2013, not in some isolated bubble that relates to something he imagined.

      So how about anti-semitism?  Isn't that wonderfully traditional?  Should that be just hunky-dory, or should that trigger our gag-reflex?  I vote for gag-reflex.  Anyone who wants to be a self-loving other-demeaning person can do what they wish, but they can't expect any of us to vote for their creepy candidates.  Ever.

      Cohen should consider taking a long sabbatical and go travel around the world to get his head straight.

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