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  •  Great news... (0+ / 0-)

    As long as he doesn't end up voting for SS benefit cuts and telling us how sorry he is for having to vote for it, with a tear running down his cheek.

    •  I remember what you were referring to. The (0+ / 0-)

      immigration reform package where him and Durbin had to remove the section for same-sex immigrant couples.  I can understand being hard on him about that but I would go after Lindsey Graham for that.  He threatened to derail it completely and he's done that to other bills.  Remember the energy and environmental bill him, Kerry, Boxer and Lieberman were working on back in late 2009, early 2010?  Well he was sincere about it and it could've passed but he completely derailed that to stop the DREAM Act from happening.  Franken deserves some criticism, sure, but between allowing Graham to kill it entirely or have to make that tough call, I probably would've done the same thing Franken did.

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      by poopdogcomedy on Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 03:15:20 PM PST

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      •  No, (maybe I should insert an apology here, (0+ / 0-)

        but I won't.)

        I have no control, input, nothing I can say to a republican to change their minds.

        I'm a member of the Democratic Party all my life (I may switch to Independent), but the republicans are who they are, I can't change that, but I can advocate for issues with my own Party.  If they're too weak to fight, I try to help, but I can only do so much.

        And the Dems had the opportunity to change the filibuster in 2009 and 2010, but they didn't.  It's their fault.  

    •  I don't think he would do the same thing on Social (0+ / 0-)

      Security thought.  Otherwise Franni will be making him sleep on the couch.

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      by poopdogcomedy on Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 03:16:05 PM PST

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      •  You have no way of knowing that. None. (0+ / 0-)

        Unless you're best friends with him and he's confided in you.

        I don't trust him at all regarding SS cuts.  Kabucki.  Let's see how he votes when it comes up and then we'll all know where he really stands.

        •  I do and no I don't know him personally but the (0+ / 0-)

          fact that SS benefits are personal for him and his wife makes me optimistic:

          You might have heard me talk about how Social Security benefits were critical to helping my wife’s family make it after her dad died when Franni was just 17 months old. And I bet a lot of families have a similar story. That’s why we need to stop Washington politicians from cutting it.
          It's like when Senator Bob Casey's (D. PA) wife had a serious talk with him about gun control and the assault weapons ban, Casey stood by his word, changed his position for the better and did vote for the assault weapons ban.  When it gets personal for these guys, then I know I can trust them.  

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          by poopdogcomedy on Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 03:28:34 PM PST

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          •  You realize that that's not comforting. (0+ / 0-)

            I hope you're not saying that a politician will only fight for something if it's personal for them, or are you?

            And did Franken start this "campaign" a few days later or within a week or two (of course depending on his schedule) when Obama plainly, clearly, without any doubt, posted on the whitehouse.gov website Obama's budget plans to cut SS and Medicare benefits?  If so, then yes, maybe I can believe Franken.  

            •  I'm not saying that, what I'm saying is if there's (0+ / 0-)

              a personal connection with the issues, it improves the chances of them voting the right way.  Some of these guys run for office because of personal connections to the issues.  Tom Harkin wrote the Americans With Disabilities Act based on his experiences with what his deaf brother had to deal with.  Franken sent this e-mail out today but he early on opposed the chained CPI.  In fact he came out against it the same time Elizabeth Warren did.  

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              by poopdogcomedy on Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 03:57:09 PM PST

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              •  What took Franken so long to send the email (0+ / 0-)

                out?  Senator Sanders has been on top of this for months.

                •  I don't know. But then again you could ask the (0+ / 0-)

                  same question to Warren, Merkley, Brown, Hagan and Pryor who all oppose cuts to Social Security.  I get e-mail from them and Sanders as well.  But here's a question I would ask Bernie, "Why hasn't he signed onto the Harkin-Begich plan to expand Social Security?"  If he's taking his time to review it closely, then I understand.  

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                  by poopdogcomedy on Wed Nov 13, 2013 at 04:05:48 PM PST

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