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  •  So your spending $10/day to feed 4 = $15 day (0+ / 0-)

    assumed Food Stamps for a 4-person household?

    So, is that the same as pulling the $15 figure out of your hat?

    •  Umm...no (0+ / 0-)

      Let's break this down into pieces:

      My experience was that I could feed my family for about $10 a day.  It took very careful shopping and meal planning to get good healthy meals for that, but it was possible to do.

      Now -- this next part is critical, so you may wish to go over it a few times:

      $15 is more than $10.

      Got that?

      $15 is more than $10.

      If I can do it for $10, I can do it for $15.
      A little better, even. Certainly easier.

      So -- did you get that?

      One more time...
      repeat it slowly if you need to:

      $15 is more than $10.

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      by dinotrac on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 08:00:16 PM PST

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      •  When were you doing this? (2+ / 0-)
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        How long ago were you feeding a family of four on $10/day? How old were the kids? Did they have any special dietary needs/restrictions like allergies? How many meals were they eating away from the house? How much was a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk at that time?  

        Just because you could do it in some random 'when' doesn't mean that everyone, or even the majority can do it NOW for their particular family.

        "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

        by FloridaSNMOM on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 08:39:46 PM PST

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        •  Up to about a year ago. (0+ / 0-)

          If you'll notice, I didn't say it could be done for $10 a day. That was my basis for suggesting it could be done for $15 a day, which is a whopping 50% more.

          And I didn't say everybody could do it. Special needs are special needs.  No getting around that.

          But yes, I believe most families (of 4, not of 7 or 8) could do it.  Not in Manhattan.  Not in San Francisco.  Not with an all-mango diet, and certainly not with steaks every day.  Or even beef of any kind.

          But healthy and nutritious and tasty.

          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

          by dinotrac on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 08:43:59 PM PST

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      •  On what basis do you assume $15/day Food Stamps? (2+ / 0-)

        Yes, somebody with adequate nutrition info, equipment, and time could reasonably create very nice meals for $15/day for 4 people.  But on what basis do you assume that a family of 4 on Food Stamps gets $15/day?

        $15/4 = 3.75/day per person
        $3.75/3meals = 1.25 per person per meal.

        Yes, nice meals with good nutrition can be prepared on that amount.  What is your basis for assuming that a Food Stamps family of four will have that much to spend?

        So, do you have a basis for your $15/day, or did you pull it out of your hat?

        •  Oh, wait: You told us your basis for $15/day (2+ / 0-)

          when you wrote --

          My experience was that I could feed my family for about $10 a day.
          and
          . . .  $10 a day. That was my basis for suggesting it could be done for $15 a day
          So you extrapolated from your old experience and pulled the $15/day out of your hat in the sense that your $15/day does not relate in any way to what actual Food Stamp recipients receive.

          Thanks for helping me clear that up.

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