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  •  We're self-delusional if we don't admit that the (4+ / 0-)
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    rollout has been a total disaster. (Why haven't more heads rolled over this? Why is Sebelius still on the job?)

    Face facts: the website isn't close to "working" status yet. I worked for years in IT management, and I can tell you that to me it doesn't look like the problems are going to be fixed any time soon. Sure, we hate to see the Republicans demagoging this issue, but we also need to see that some of the charges they're leveling are actually true (for once).

    Ask yourself this simple question: if you are a person trying to sign up for health care through the website, and if you give up in frustration because of the problems, how are you going to feel about the ability of the government to run this program?

    If we want to save the ACA - and I really want to save the ACA - the best thing we could do is to delay the implementation of parts of the law for six months or a year to give the tech people enough time to iron out the total mess they have now. The white house needs to wake up to how much damage the current situation is doing to public support.

    I believe that in every country the people themselves are more peaceably and liberally inclined than their governments. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by Blue Knight on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 05:20:24 AM PST

    •  Roll outs are a mess all over the place. Hell, (5+ / 0-)

      look at how many times Microsoft has totally fucked it up.

      •  I don't recall Microsoft ever rolling out a (1+ / 0-)
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        product that essentially didn't function at all. There's a big difference between a product needing some amount of "bug fixing" and a product that's essentially still under development and definitely not "ready for prime time." To be similar to the current healthcare website problems, a Microsoft operating system would have had to be so bad that only 1% or so of people who tried it were able to boot their PCs. Nothing like that has ever happened.

        I believe that in every country the people themselves are more peaceably and liberally inclined than their governments. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

        by Blue Knight on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 06:35:06 AM PST

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    •  this is bunk (3+ / 0-)
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      the website isn't close to "working" status yet.

      The media keeps talking about it as if nothing has changed since the first few days.  And this kind of comment just reinforces that perception.  

      A great deal has changed.  And over the weekend they focused on fixes to the 834 process which is the important one to get those other million people signed up.  If it wasn't better they would not have  emailed 247,000 people on Tues to retry.

      •  What percentage of people trying to use the site (0+ / 0-)

        are successfully doing so (in the sense that in a reasonable amount of time they have purchased a new policy)? And how secure is the personal information they have submitted?

        It's easy to criticize reporting that isn't what we want to hear. Just remember, it isn't us who need to be persuaded that the ACA is a big step forward - it's the people who need the policies and are struggling to get them.

        I believe that in every country the people themselves are more peaceably and liberally inclined than their governments. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

        by Blue Knight on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 06:59:18 AM PST

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        •  How secure is the personal information? (0+ / 0-)

          from my understanding of how the virtual db works, the personal information isn't stored anywhere.

        •  oh, and they've said in testimony (0+ / 0-)

          they can process 17,000 applications per hour and handle 20,000 concurrent users.

          I believe that's about half of the benchmark they set.  But that's far from saying it "isn't close to working status".

          •  And are these "applications" resulting in the (0+ / 0-)

            users having new policies, or is the information just being transferred to somewhere else to be processed "later"?

            I believe that in every country the people themselves are more peaceably and liberally inclined than their governments. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

            by Blue Knight on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:31:08 AM PST

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            •  transferred somewhere else? (0+ / 0-)

              the only place they get transferred is to the insurers after they select a plan.  According to their data yesterday, they've got 975,407 applications waiting to select a plan.  Now I don't know why they haven't selected a plan yet but I do know that when I signed up for Medicare this summer it took me a couple of months of researching all of my options before I finally selected a plan and submitted my first payment.  

    •  repubs (0+ / 0-)

      want to delay it so they can scrap it. When they were saying delay it they did not know that  the web site would be so far behind. they had no good intentions.

      •  You're absolutely correct. Unfortunately, NOT (0+ / 0-)

        delaying it is actually working in their favor, in the current public perception environment. I want to delay it in order to save it.

        I believe that in every country the people themselves are more peaceably and liberally inclined than their governments. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

        by Blue Knight on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 07:28:40 AM PST

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