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  •  They had a choice between a simple sure thing (3+ / 0-)

    or a Rube Goldberg machine.  They chose Rube.

    "When dealing with terrorism, civil and human rights are not applicable." Egyptian military spokesman.

    by Paleo on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 08:50:54 AM PST

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    •  There was NO CHOICE. The economy was in ruins (2+ / 0-)
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      when he took office, no way an entire industry of jobs was going to be axed with single payer NO WAY

      stop with the revisionist history

      "The poor can never be made to suffer enough." Jimmy Breslin

      by merrywidow on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 08:59:44 AM PST

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      •  Which is why he should have waited (0+ / 0-)

        And focused on recovery and jobs.  2009 wasn't the time to do this.

        "When dealing with terrorism, civil and human rights are not applicable." Egyptian military spokesman.

        by Paleo on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 09:21:59 AM PST

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    •  A simple, sure thing? You don't mean single (0+ / 0-)

      payer do you?  How would having single payer make the website run better?  How would people be able to "keep the policy they have now" work under single payer.  Assuming the single payer fairies would have passed single payer in 2009 and Congress would have raised the taxes necessary to pay for it, how would it technically have avoided the problems the President is dealing with right now?

      "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

      by stellaluna on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 09:36:15 AM PST

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      •  They could have, should have, taken (0+ / 0-)

        a more incremental approach.  Lowering Medicare coverage to 60 while expanding Medicaid.

        Taxes were raised under the ACA as well.

        "When dealing with terrorism, civil and human rights are not applicable." Egyptian military spokesman.

        by Paleo on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 10:15:13 AM PST

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        •  I guess you are right. I'm still not sure (0+ / 0-)

          anything would have been any easier given the GOP obstruction to this President.  Their objection isn't to this Heritage Foundation boon to insurance companies.  Their objection is to anything this President tries to accomplish.  So I'm not sure that even incremental changes would have been any easier.  At the same time it's interesting to see someone thinking less rather than more (single payer) should have been accomplished.  

          "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

          by stellaluna on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 10:23:54 AM PST

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      •  A public option would have fixed almost all of (0+ / 0-)

        this.

        1.  It would have forced higher volume expectations from day one, and they wouldn't have been surprised as states opted out.

        2.  There would always be a lower rate plan available.

        3.  Medicaid expansion wouldn't have been as large an issue.

        4.  The mandate argument wouldn't be as strong.

        SCOTUS may have found an out, but the real issue was a political one.  From a policy standpoint, the public option was and is still a critical component to a nationwide mandate of health care.  The only way out is single payer.

        "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

        by justmy2 on Thu Nov 14, 2013 at 11:20:10 AM PST

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