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  •  NOVA on PBS just aired a very good forensic (4+ / 0-)

    reconstruction last week. With an in depth look at the Italian rife and the unique ammunition that went with it. Along with laser reconstruction of the whole area, computer simulations of the effects of the impacts and re-examining the x-rays and original evidence from the Archives. It's pretty convincing in support of Oswald being alone and capable. No examination of Ruby's contacts, just the forensics of the shooting itself.

    Pretty sure you can access NOVA and replay the episode online.

    Information is abundant, wisdom is scarce. ~The Druid.
    ~Ideals aren't goals, they're navigation aids.~

    by FarWestGirl on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 03:14:51 PM PST

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    •  obviously, NOVA works for the CIA (4+ / 0-)
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      FarWestGirl, wader, grover, N in Seattle

      and is in on the plot.

      (snicker)

      In the end, reality always wins.

      by Lenny Flank on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 05:07:02 PM PST

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    •  Looked to me as though the forensic anaysis (0+ / 0-)

      described in Mortal Error is the best so far. They show the action of the Italian rifle's bullets yawing upon exiting flesh and show the deformed "pristine" bullet, as well as the holes corresponding to the tumbling bullet. The smell of gun powder on the ground sited by, what, 11 witnesses? The apparently inaccurate account by the agent who picked up the ar-15 as to when he picked it up? And the myriad of unlikely deaths to people involved, starting with Oswald? People who are disturbed by things that are not wrapped up neat and tidy don;t want to have to think about it. But the Dulles brothers had been busy assassinating and deposing leaders the world over during the previous decade, and wanted nothing more than to get deep into Vietnam. This stank to high heaven from the start, and the idea of a lone, nut assassin is just the easy, simple solution people who don't like feeling frightened have been able to rely on for comfort these last 50 years.

      I sure hope that JFK can rest in peace, lord knows we've had precious little of it since the plotters killed him... IM (and some 60 to 70 percent of the public's) O.

      "Have a good time... all the time." -Viv Savage

      by The House on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 05:58:59 PM PST

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      •  so the Dulles brothers killed JFK . . . ? (0+ / 0-)

        No wonder nobody takes you seriously.

        In the end, reality always wins.

        by Lenny Flank on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 06:21:46 PM PST

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        •  If a person chooses to be an idiot, who (0+ / 0-)

          can help him?

          "Have a good time... all the time." -Viv Savage

          by The House on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 06:25:15 PM PST

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          •  a better answer would have been to present some (0+ / 0-)

            evidence for your silly claim.

            But you don't have any.  (shrug)

            Feel free to call me names as much as you want, iof you think it helps.  Just make sure to present your evidence somewhere in all the name-calling . . . .

            (sound of crickets chirping)

            Yeah, that's what I thought . . .

            In the end, reality always wins.

            by Lenny Flank on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 06:35:07 PM PST

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            •  Read the book The Brothers by Stephen Kinzer. (0+ / 0-)

              And then watch Coverup: Behind the Iran Contra Affair. Our government has been murderous since at least the end of ww2. You can believe whatever you need to. But if you can put Kennedy's assassination beyond the wherewithal of the Military Industrial Complex then I think that you are very naive. They wanted it, and it happened.

              Communist, non-Communist; CIA followed; Russian agent, non-Russian agent, ex-Marine Oswald, calm as can be in the aftermath, denying he did it, lone "nut" gunman was solely responsible... missing the first, easiest shot, but then connecting better with each following rushed shot... right!

              And btw, you were the first one in with an insult, genius!

              "Have a good time... all the time." -Viv Savage

              by The House on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 07:06:25 PM PST

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      •  The NOVA episode also showed the yaw in the (0+ / 0-)

        trajectory post emergence, as well as the trajectories and evidence from the clothing and described wounds. I was impressed.

        Information is abundant, wisdom is scarce. ~The Druid.
        ~Ideals aren't goals, they're navigation aids.~

        by FarWestGirl on Sun Nov 17, 2013 at 07:11:39 PM PST

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      •  If the SS agent fired that gun (0+ / 0-)

        it could have been deliberate or accidental.
        I actually vote for accidental because it explains why they pushed so hard on Oswald as the "lone assassin" and why there seemed to me (who lived in DC at the time) to be no extra security on anything after the assassination. No one in the government seemed to be walking around worrying about more assassins.

        And why the records are still sealed.

        •  there was no gun fired (0+ / 0-)

          So your evidence-free speculations are pointless.

          In the end, reality always wins.

          by Lenny Flank on Mon Nov 18, 2013 at 05:01:35 AM PST

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            •  I know that because we have the bullets and (0+ / 0-)

              the fragments, that were recovered inside the limousine and inside JFK's head.

              You can go today to the National Archives and see those fragments for yourself.

              Those fragments were ballistically tested, and they match Oswald's rifle to the exclusion of every other firearm in the world.

              And three rifle casings were found at the scene (NONE were found either in the Secret Service car or in the street having been ejected from the Secret Service car). When those casings were ballistically tested, they also all were matched to Oswald's rifle to the exclusion of all other firearms on earth.

              See, that sort of thing is what we call "evidence".

              You of course can wave your arms and blither about how the Secret Service or the CIA or the space aliens stole the "real" fragments/casings and substituted fake ones or whatever---and if you have some "evidence" that any of this ever actually happened, people may even take you seriously.  Until then, you're just waving your arms and spinning evidence-free woo-woo stories.

              In the end, reality always wins.

              by Lenny Flank on Mon Nov 18, 2013 at 07:07:35 AM PST

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