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  •  Funny how my husband did 23 years (10+ / 0-)

    in the Navy without ever raping anyone. ANd he banned rape jokes from the shop he ran in AIMD. Several people whined to the LY and the MCPO.  DH pointed out that rape jokes create a hostile work environment for female sailors and thus encouraged conduct unbecoming and undermined disciple and respect.  LT and CPO agreed with him.

    They need to go Gillibrand;s solution: remove sexual assault cases and  domestic violence from the hands of the military completely and turn them over to local cops--not that police are necessarily gonna be terrific, but at least you don't have to report it to your noss and his boss etc up the chain of command--and if the rapist is valued as a worker, forget about it.

    The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

    by irishwitch on Mon Nov 18, 2013 at 09:17:08 AM PST

    •  Wow (1+ / 0-)
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      the AIMD, the LY, and then the MCPO?  Then the DH, LT and CPO agreed with him?

      I understood every bit of that!

      •  I did (1+ / 0-)
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        and Im not even Navy.

        AIMD - Aircraft Intermediate Maintenance Department
        MCPO - master Chief Petty Officer (A Senior NCO)
        DH - guessing her husband
        LT - Lieutenant - Navy O3
        CPO - Chief Petty Officer

        Nice snarky remark.  Military people speak a different language and sometimes we forget to translate.  Just like my wife has to translate realtor speak or how my BIL has to translate finance speak.  But what the heck, its more fun to make a snarky remark than ask what the person was trying to communicate.  Much more fun to mock people right?

        It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

        by ksuwildkat on Mon Nov 18, 2013 at 07:11:07 PM PST

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        •  I've seen DH used here before-- (0+ / 0-)

          it's a fairly well-known abbreviation ofr (dear, darling, damned) husband. Quite common.

          And LT is standard even in mainstream  world for Lieutenant--including police LTs.

          I guess you've had a very limited experience with the military--and lots of other things.

          Sorry you didn't understand.  

          Here's another acronym, you likely don't know: PC, otherwise called common politeness or not being a jerk cause you can be.

          The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

          by irishwitch on Mon Nov 18, 2013 at 07:24:39 PM PST

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          •  common politeness (0+ / 0-)

            would include making sure that your message will be understood by those you are communicating with.

            How much trouble would it be to spell some of that out or use a term that is generally understood?

            There are far too many of these esoteric acronyms being used here on DKos.  I'm reading the comments because I'm interested in what you have to say.  It's frustrating when much of the message seems to be written in code.

            •  I understand now just how limited your experience (0+ / 0-)

              You're 24. That's not a put-down. That's simply a factual statement. At 24, you just don't HAVE a lot of life experience.  Most of us ARE gonna know more than you simply because we're older, which means we've had mor time to learn stuff--and a broader exposure to the world. At 24, I had just quit my first job to go into teaching because I realized I hated the D.C. establishment.

              You're the first person here who has had problems with military abbreviations.  You're certainly the first one to get affronted because I used terms you didn't understand. Most of here have gotten over the adolescent belief that we know everything and have no problems simply asking, politely, for an explanation; it works very well.

              Being snotty ?  Not well at all.

              The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

              by irishwitch on Mon Nov 18, 2013 at 08:48:34 PM PST

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              •  OOPS. You're likely NOT 24., (0+ / 0-)

                Got you confused with another guy.  I made a dumb mistake and I sincerely apologize.

                But the principle still stands. If you don't know something--ASK politely.  It works better than being snotty to the person you want to explain.

                The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

                by irishwitch on Mon Nov 18, 2013 at 08:51:56 PM PST

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