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    knowing nothing about any of the people there you projected a stereotype on them.  very progressive of you.

    It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

    by ksuwildkat on Mon Nov 18, 2013 at 09:17:55 PM PST

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    •  Back to me thinking you're very silly and I (0+ / 0-)

      regret this exchange. I was in the military and know something about the mentality there. And if you don't think women troops are disrespected and they're  calling for more scrutiny isn't appropriate, then forget it. And whether or not you personally think I'm progressive or not, I don't care.

      "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

      by Wildthumb on Mon Nov 18, 2013 at 09:23:13 PM PST

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      •  Respect and assault are two different things (0+ / 0-)

        I seem to remember this diary being about changing how the military handles sexual assault cases, not about respect or lack there of.

        If you were in the military than you know that most people get exactly as much respect as they earn.  Male or female that doesn't change.

        And this bill isnt calling for more scrutiny, it is saying that we are going to have one form of justice for sex crimes and another for all others.  I ask you, where else in the american justice system do we do this?  And why stop there?  Why not have rape courts and murder courts and robbery courts?  There are 57 punitive articles in the UCMJ (58 if you count the two versions of Article 123) plus article 134 has a HUGE range of crimes that can be applied to it.  Are we going to have 58+ separate justice systems?  And what exactly is it trying to achieve?  None of the issues being brought up are unique to military justice.  Reluctant victims are as big a problem in the civil system.  Alcohol clouded memories complicate cases everywhere.  Societal shaming and "she was dressed like___" are not something invented in the military.  

        This bill is just as much about grandstanding and do noting talk as Republican attempts to ban Shria.  It is meant to play to the base without ever doing anything.  

        It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

        by ksuwildkat on Mon Nov 18, 2013 at 09:38:36 PM PST

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