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  •  Do you have a link? (0+ / 0-)

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    •  google is your friend (0+ / 0-)

      because I am in a didactic mood I decided to do the work for you on this one.

      i googled who holds majority of US debt and found:

      The largest holder of U.S. debt is, of course, the United States itself; the majority is American-owned.
      stick around dK long enough and you too can learn these simple fact checking skills

      Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
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      by TrueBlueMajority on Sat Dec 28, 2013 at 02:41:55 PM PST

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      •  I knew it wasn't true and wanted (0+ / 0-)

        to see your bullshit source. Just what I thought. generic Google search.

        As of March 2013:

        China: 32.8%
        Japan: 6.4%
        Other Foreign: 17%
        Fed (US): 8.9%
        Other Gov: 8%
        US Private: 26.9%

        Do the math dumbass.

        "stick around dK long enough and you too can learn these simple fact checking skills". Yeah right

        http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/...

        •  your source is some guy named Bill Mitchell (0+ / 0-)

          tell me about him.  is he supposed to be a big deal?

          is he supposed to be a more reliable source than the GAO?

          Debt held by international investors is less than half the amount of debt held by the public, and the debt not held by the public is held by the Social Security and Medicare trust funds

          Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
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          by TrueBlueMajority on Sun Dec 29, 2013 at 06:02:37 PM PST

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          •  Hey Unicorn, just saw your response (0+ / 0-)

            Not very bright are you?

            He is actually well respected. But here you go:

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

            Make sure you the blurb inside the chart. "Foreign investers hold the largest share of US debt".

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            •  LOLOLOL ROFLMFAO (0+ / 0-)

              ok, ok, i've stopped laughing now.  whew.  that was almost Colbert funny.

              first--read the title of the chart:  FOREIGN holdings of US Debt.

              second--read the article itself: it makes clear that the chart is only referring to foreign holdings of US debt.

              third--read the last sentence of the article:  The largest holder of U.S. debt is, of course, the United States itself; the majority is American-owned.

              cherry on top--you did not even notice you linked to the VERY SAME CHART I linked to on December 28th that you "knew wasn't true" and called a "bullshit source"!

              omg that was funny.  when i saw your link i laughed until tears came out of my eyes.

              from the context, the only thing that makes sense there is that the word "who" is missing.  It obviously should have read "Foreign investors WHO hold the largest share of US debt.

              BTW, namecalling like "dumbass" and remarks like "not very bright are you" are not well thought of around here.

              Plus they only work with people who are insecure about how smart they are, which does not apply to most of us at dK :-D

              Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
              Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights for support in dealing with grief.

              by TrueBlueMajority on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 08:42:53 AM PST

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            •  and (0+ / 0-)

              you did not comment about my GAO source, which is as clear as possibly can be, but let me break it down for you

              the bar chart shows a blue bar representing all debt held by the public.  $11.3 trillion.

              then the first pie chart shows a green segment representing that only 48% (less than half) of the debt held by the public is held by international investors.

              so the amount held by ALL international investors is less than half of $11.3 trillion, or about 5.6 trillion

               the rest of the amount held by the public (the grey shaded area in the pie chart) is about 5.7 trillion.

              Now go back to the bar chart.

              Add the 4.8 trillion in debt held by government accounts (the purple bar in the bar chart) to the 5.7 trillion from the grey shaded area of the pie chart, and you see that the domestic holdings of US debt are approximately 10.5 trillion.

              which is way more than the 5.6 trillion held by all foreign investors combined, which (duh) just happens to match the TOTAL shown on the chart we both linked to (see the right margin of the chart)

              we have spent over a decade learning how to factcheck each other here.  it is very hard to win an argument without reputable links.

              you told me a few posts ago to do the math (with an unnecessary personal insult tacked on).  now i have done it.

              if that's not clear enough for you, I can't help you, Sundance

              Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
              Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights for support in dealing with grief.

              by TrueBlueMajority on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 09:06:00 AM PST

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