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  •  I love this diary! But another chicken and egg... (15+ / 0-)
    When I arrived via bike and BART at the Davis Street Transfer Station on the eastern shore of the San Francisco Bay, the activities were already in full swing.
    You go. But I have a terrible time using public transportation, even when the infrastructure -- depending on where I live and where I'm going. There was a time when I bussed every single day, and it worked, even when I had to pick up kids. Now it's harder to use public trans, and I'm driving my car a lot more...

    So -- you start cleaning up your garbage, and I followed suit. Now I have to start riding my bike to keep up, is that it?  ;)

    "Broccoli could take down a government. Broccoli is revolutionary." --Kris Carr

    by rb137 on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 02:57:27 PM PST

    •  So true, another big chicken egg (13+ / 0-)

      Chicken: I'd use public transit if it were nearby and convenient
      Egg: We'd build a public transit system if there were enough demand.

      You're at a clear disadvantage here, rb, as I was able to easily hop on a train and then ride 15 minutes on level ground.

      The thing though is that sometimes I won't do something because it's out of transit/bike reach, but in this case it worked out well.

      The best way to go is to do as much as you can within biking or transit range, and at the same time try to lobby for transit expansion in places where it would make sense and benefit a large number of people.

      Great to see ya!

      Ecology is the new Economy => Kosonomy

      by citisven on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 03:10:41 PM PST

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      •  Time is my problem. (8+ / 0-)

        I used to live where there was a lot of transit, and I could actually get to work faster (and cheaper) by riding the bus. There was a bus that went between two convenient (to me) places every 15 minutes during peak hours and every 30 during off-peak hours.

        Now I moved -- and changed where I work -- and there are few buses that allow for me to get to all my appointments on time. No buses come near my house, but there is a park and ride about three miles away. If I'm going to the right places, the bus is still a great option. Problem is, I rarely go to the right places anymore.

        Getting public transit to work is hard. It's worth doing, though.

        Good to see you, too.

        "Broccoli could take down a government. Broccoli is revolutionary." --Kris Carr

        by rb137 on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 03:25:30 PM PST

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        •  I think it's best (5+ / 0-)

          to go for the low-hanging fruits first, and that is to encourage the people who are conveniently located near transit like you were in your old place to actually use it. I think the statistic is something like 40% of all car trips taken in the U.S. are 2 miles or less. So those are the ones that are most easily eliminated without too much of a time commitment or convenience sacrifice. But in your current location there's no point in trying so hard that it causes extra stress. We each just have to do what we can with the situation we're in.

          Ecology is the new Economy => Kosonomy

          by citisven on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 04:37:22 PM PST

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          •  I live about 3 miles from a park and ride. (1+ / 0-)
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            But I live on a wicked hill. On a bicycle, I'd about free fall to the bus stop, and then it would take me three hours to bike back up.

            I'd be in pretty good shape if I eliminated that 3 mile ride, though.  :)  

            "Broccoli could take down a government. Broccoli is revolutionary." --Kris Carr

            by rb137 on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 11:31:14 PM PST

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