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  •  Don't fall into the going along with shitty (6+ / 0-)

    polling and shitty reporting trap.

    Those who support it combined with those who think it doesn't go far enough are a larger group than those who want to get rid of it and go back to what we had before.

    "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

    by Lawrence on Tue Nov 19, 2013 at 07:57:36 AM PST

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    •  Getting rid of it is not an issue (4+ / 0-)

      as long as Obama is President.

      Don;t fall into the trap of thinking mending ACA is not feasible or the right thing to do.

      •  Not under the current political environment. (2+ / 0-)
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        We'll see what 2014 brings.

        The most violent element in society is ignorance.

        by Mr MadAsHell on Tue Nov 19, 2013 at 08:16:29 AM PST

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      •  Can it be mended in a way that will gain public (1+ / 0-)
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        WaPo/ABC  also has a poll out today, and it shows a significant loss of support for ACA among young people.  That makes a certain sense as young and healthy people are the ones expected to bear the burden of making insurance/payment (not care -- this doesn't touch care)  more affordable for the older and less healthy.

        The current model requires those people to participate, and I don't see how it works otherwise.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Tue Nov 19, 2013 at 08:22:15 AM PST

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        • hit the nail on the head... (1+ / 0-)
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          Get the support of young people and that 59% shrinks considerably.

          Adequate health care should be a LEGAL RIGHT in the U.S without begging or bankruptcy. Until it is, we should not dare call our society civilized.

          by Love Me Slender on Tue Nov 19, 2013 at 08:31:52 AM PST

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        •  the young people along with everyone else (0+ / 0-)

          have been hearing a lot of propaganda and false information promoted by the Repubs and the MSM, along with miserable people such as yourself who for some reason have a desire to see the ACA fail.  
          Things will turn around, and already are, once everyone realizes that all the negative bullshit was just that.  

          •  In the end, what will matter is how much they (1+ / 0-)
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            are hit in the pocket and what they perceive the value of that hit to be.

            No amount of propaganda on either side will change that.

            LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

            by dinotrac on Tue Nov 19, 2013 at 08:47:49 AM PST

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        •  Interesting numbers from WaPo/ABC (2+ / 0-)
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          Q: Barack Obama said in the past that people who have health insurance can keep their policies. That's not the case for people whose policies don't meet the law's minimum coverage standards. Do you think Obama (told the American public what he believed to be true) or (intentionally misled the American public)?

          Obama told the American public what he believed to be true - 52 percent
          Obama intentionally misled the American public - 44 percent

          Democrat 81/16
          Republican 24/71
          Independent 49/48

          18-39 52/44
          40-64 53/43
          65+ 50/45

          Q: Do you think the federal government can recover from its problems implementing the new health care law and get it working successfully, or do you think these problems are an indication that the law is unworkable?

          Government can recover - 49 percent
          Law is unworkable - 49 percent

          Democrat 86/12
          Republican 16/83
          Independent 42/55

          18-39 56/43
          40-64 47/51
          65+ 42/54

          Clues about the make up of this sample:

          By 45 percent to 43 percent, respondents say Obama is "too liberal" vs. "just about right."

          By 46 percent to 41 percent, respondents say the Democratic Party is "too liberal" vs. "just about right."

          "Too conservative" - 9 percent for Obama and 10 percent for Democrats.

          By 43 percent to 36 percent, respondents say the Reupblican Party is "too conservative" vs. "just about right."

          17 percent said Republicans are "too liberal."

          If the election were held today:

          Obama 47 percent
          Romney 47 percent.

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