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    To both of these questions is yes, you might want to revisit sections like the one titled "DOCUMENT VERIFICATION REQUIREMENTS" 'cause what they are describing as something 'new' is actually almost identical to the current I9 requirement.

    In other words, Congress will create a lot of new laws, many of which already exist, and somehow convince themselves that because they have created new law, that in itself will create the catalyst to enforce law that already exists.

    Quick Guide to Kennedy- McCain Immigration Bill (May 2005)

    To be honest, I'm not sure how you know what it does and does not do since it's not up on Thomas yet

    With all respect, I do not need to know the exact language regarding changes in enforcement. The problem is not that the language does not exist to enforce the law, the problem is that current law is not enforced. What makes you think that changes to the language of the law will compel anyone to enforce law which already exists?

    The Department of Labor will have new authority to conduct random audits of employers and ensure compliance with labor laws; also includes new worker protections and enhanced fines for illegal employment practices

    • Investigations targeting employers of illegal immigrants fell more than 70 percent, from 7,637 in 1997 to 2,194 in 2003.
    • Arrests on job sites fell from 17,554 in 1997 to 445 in 2003.
    • Fines levied for immigration-law violations fell from 778 in 1997 to 124 in 2003.
    • DHS collected only $2.6 million of $5.3 million in fines it levied on employers of illegal aliens in 2002. The agency was unable to collect a dime from nearly a quarter of those employers.

    Now, all of this has occurred within the confines of the current 1986 IRCA law.
    All employers are required to verify that each employee hired after 1988 is eligible to work in the United States. There are fines ranging from $250 to $10,000 for each unauthorized alien and a maximum 6-month prison sentence if violator demonstrates a persistent pattern of hiring unauthorized aliens.

    Please tell me of one person from Tyson Foods who has been sent to jail for six months. Please tell me of one fine that ConAgra has had to pay for employing illegal aliens.

    Again, when you state that This is just a brief on the new legislation; it does not include every detail on fines and enforcement.  To be honest, I'm not sure how you know what it does and does not do since it's not up on Thomas yet, I am telling you that I don't need to know. Changing the language of an enforcement provision does not mean anything if the law is not enforced.

    Also, I asked Please name one thing in this bill which promotes American workers rights, or will increase American workers wages. You answer with If immigrants have a way to come here and work legally, and enjoy the benefits of being in America openly, there's less incentive for them to take "under the table" jobs. Your answer directs itself to how, seemingly, illegal aliens will benefit from this legislation. Your answer does not, however, respond to my question as to just how American workers will benefit

    I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

    by superscalar on Tue Nov 19, 2013 at 12:08:14 PM PST

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