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  •  Then explain swimming before Title IX (1+ / 0-)
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    My school didn't drop men's swimming because they didn't want to or couldn't afford to give out extra scholarships for the swimmers.  It was never an issue of money.  Football is supported by massive ad revenue that easily pays for those 85 scholarships.

    No, men's swimming was doing just fine, until the university was told that the number of athletes, not scholarships, had to be equal.  Thus men's sports, not mens scholarships, were cut.

    But I think OK used your argument, slightly paraphrased.  Something like:

    "The overallocation of marriage benefits to same-sex couples to the deriment of opposite-sex couples is the reason all marriage benefits get dropped."

    Can't complain about absolute equality in one place and let it slide elsewhere.

    •  Because your school choose (6+ / 0-)

      to keep giving 85 scholarships to football rather than say 75 and use the 10 saved by that move for men's swimming. And if you are going to bring the economics argument into this, many schools actually lose money on football (as well as all other sports). They only break even because of revenue sharing plans of their athletic conferences. Cutting back on football scholarships would save schools money such that programs like men's swimming could still be funded.

      The same can be said of some men's basketball programs. A number of years ago, Iowa State renewed their basketball coach's contract for some enormous sum of money. A few weeks later, they announced they were ending men's baseball, wrestling and swimming. The reason wasn't Title IX, it was giving more and more money to basketball and football.

      "Lesbian and gay people are a permanent part of the American workforce, who currently have no protection from the arbitrary abuse of their rights on the job." --Coretta Scott King

      by craigkg on Wed Nov 20, 2013 at 11:04:58 AM PST

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      •  Given the massive tuition increases.... (0+ / 0-)

        There's no economic reason to cut any scholarships.  Where is all the money going?

        But you know, I didn't get a scholarship, because I went to college to learn, not play games.  So I had to pay.

        So how about keep the sports, but cut the scholarships.  All of them.
        And let those there to learn do sports for fun in their free time.  And not because they're being paid to be jocks, funded by those there to study.

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