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  •  Actually, we don't need more psychiatrists (0+ / 0-)

    a large part of today's apparent epidemic of mental illness is due to people living in constant economic and social insecurity...if people who wanted them could find living wage jobs that were reasonably secure, there'd be a whole lot less depression. A lot of what looks like mental illness (I'm not saying all, obviously there are plenty of genuine schizophrenics  and bipolars out there) is just a normal reaction to living in very screwed up society.

    What we really need are gerontologists. Caring for elderly patients calls for special training, and when doctors without that training make mistakes, it not only injures elderly patients, it sends Medicare costs through the roof.

    "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

    by Alice in Florida on Sat Nov 23, 2013 at 04:37:45 PM PST

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    •  We need both. But Psychiatrists are (0+ / 0-)

      in very short supply. And when someone with a serious disabling mental illness has to wait 6 to 12 weeks between appointments or can't get a hospital bed when the need is very high — as for Gus Creeds — there is a serious lack.

      You denigrate mental illness with your "it's a reaction to a crazy society" dogma. People with serious depression don't get better if you give them a job. Often they can't DO a job. We are not seeing an epidemic of mental illness. Low grade depression in people in ghastly situations is normal and not illness.

      And adequate diagnosticians are of utmost importance as well as close supervision at the start of treatment. we don't have that.

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      by samddobermann on Mon Nov 25, 2013 at 12:47:33 AM PST

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      •  I agree there is a shortage (0+ / 0-)

        of hospitals and psychiatrists, I just thought you were suggesting that there was an epidemic of mental illness--based on the way antidepressants and antipsychotics are being doled out (including antipsychotics being used as an all-purpose remedy), that's what a lot of people seem to think. The overall nastiness of today's society,  the bullying, the insecurity, can push a lot of "normal" people over the edge.

        The real tragedy of psychiatry is how it is practised these days, which may be in part a function of shortage, which is that they spend little time with patients and mostly concentrate on writing prescriptions. It may be onn of the things that pushes doctors away from choosing that as a speciality...that and maybe it's not a great way to make money. Or maybe not many doc's want to be around the mentally ill, just as they don't want to be around old people. Or, given the shortage of general practitioners, they don't like treating people....

        "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

        by Alice in Florida on Mon Nov 25, 2013 at 08:37:30 PM PST

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