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  •  Well in our neck of the woods (2+ / 0-)
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    The grocery stores always opened until 11am so that people who burned their turkey, or just found out that an extra 15 relatives were coming, could get what they needed to make the holiday. They always ran on a skeleton crew and the employees still got home early enough to enjoy the holiday.

    I always saw it as a gesture to help make sure people enjoyed the holiday. There were never enough "oops" shoppers in the store for the store to make a ton of money.

    "Nothing happens unless first a dream. " ~ Carl Sandburg

    by davewill on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 10:43:17 AM PST

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    •  It's a delusion. (2+ / 0-)
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      That those skeleton workers will still get to enjoy a DAMN DAY OFF.  

      It's not a kind gesture.  It's just another way to appease the public that it's okay for workers not to get one day off.

      The family of 15 who just burned their turkey... or someone forgot, horrors, the dinner rolls.  

      So it's okay for the single mom of three to not have dinner ready to enjoy because she had to work 6 hours just in case some oops happened to another family who was obviously more worthy of a whole day off?  I guess the Thanksgiving Fairy will have had all her dinner ready and going for her to "enjoy" after her shift?  

      Who will prepare that meal for her kids while she works the one day off that now isn't a day off.  

      "Love One Another" ~ George Harrison

      by Damnit Janet on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 10:51:11 AM PST

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      •  Yeah, you know just how it was (1+ / 0-)
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        in the little grocery store in my old home neighborhood. The "crew" was typically the store manager and one checker, but have fun screaming your head off.

        "Nothing happens unless first a dream. " ~ Carl Sandburg

        by davewill on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 11:09:10 AM PST

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        •  Really? That's your response? (1+ / 0-)
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          And that's your comparison?  Two checkers in a small town is okay - compared to an entire nation controlled by the Consume Machine.  

          I think people just want to feel okay about stepping on other people so long as their needs, no matter how minor, are met.  

          Hey, that's cool.  I think the rest are talking about One Day Off  not some small town store gesture versus what's going on in the nation and how One Day Off is no longer available to so many because some can't see past their own little lives.  

          Quite possibly we were also speaking of worker's rights.  Not how some people might forget the stuffing and how that would totally crush their happy time.  

          Or some might be talking about how some things are still not okay even with pay to supplement a meager income.  

          Or some are speaking of the delusions we tell ourselves to make it all okay to go shop and not prepare or plan or provide others with the equality of being able to be with their family.

          "Love One Another" ~ George Harrison

          by Damnit Janet on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 11:36:14 AM PST

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          •  You're the one that came down on me for (3+ / 0-)
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            sharing an anecdote. The only point I was making is that, for a lot of people, having grocery stores open for a bit in the morning was a long time normal thing, not some new consumerism gone berserk. I completely get why you didn't appreciate the attitude displayed in your first post.

            I recall my Mother being really grateful, and expressing thanks to the staff those couple of times she needed something for Thanksgiving dinner. Everyone understood that it was a imposition on those employees, and that they were doing us a favor, not there for the money.

            To the extent that the spirit of the convention has changed, that's really rotten.

            "Nothing happens unless first a dream. " ~ Carl Sandburg

            by davewill on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 11:50:23 AM PST

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            •  yes, because that's not what it's about at all now (4+ / 0-)

              It's no longer about gratitude.  It's the attitude of the masses that just want to trample on others so long as their needs and "traditions" are met.

              Just a few short years ago at the same store, people were happy we'd be home with ours.  They were grateful we weren't open.  

              Now they are expressing shock that we won't be "earning a little extra income' while they shop earlier for xmas.

              I am sorry I came off as coming down on you. I even took out all the "you" comments :)  It's an attitude or moreso a delusion that all of this is okay.  

              Thanks for the discussion and I truly hope you have a wonderful day off with your loved ones and if something is missing from your table I hope that is not love and good times.

              Cranberry sauce might be missing but that's okay.

              "Love One Another" ~ George Harrison

              by Damnit Janet on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 11:58:17 AM PST

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