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  •  I look at how common it is these days (0+ / 0-)

    to publicly heckle the President. Screaming "You lie!" during the State of the Union address was unthinkable once upon a time, but it was excepted as "normal" and the offender still holds office.

    •  Is it really that common? (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't see the the President getting heckled that much.  Certainly not more than any other president.  The " You Lie" incident was like 4 years ago and nobody thought it was normal.

      •  There have been other displays of disrepect (2+ / 0-)
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        without modern precedent; calling Obama "boy", the birther madness, the CONSTANT stream personal attacks against Obama and his family, the racist emails from judges, lawmakers and law enforcement officers.

        Add to that the fact that ELECTED officials, presidential  candidates even, were advocating for secession and sedition and this not something I have seen in my life time.

    •  The member of Congres who made that comment (0+ / 0-)

      was widely criticized on a bipartisan basis. That was an isolated incident. I don't think the President is heckled any more than GWB.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 09:38:39 AM PST

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      •  Criticism from the Right was muted (0+ / 0-)

        and half-hearted. It was reported in the press and promptly forgotten.

        The member is still in office.

        If it had been a Dem, the press would NEVER had let it go, the Left would have been all over his ass, and he would NOT have been re-elected, since he would have been forced to resign.

        The rules are not the same on the right and the left.

        •  Isn't his re-election and continued service (0+ / 0-)

          decided by the voters in his district? And isn't that how our democracy works?

          His remarks were completely out of order and reprehensible. One mitigating factor was that he was right. The President made a misstatement on that point in his SOTU address.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 10:38:18 AM PST

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          •  Pressure to resign comes from the party the press (0+ / 0-)

            and the money guys, not the constituents.

            Folks on the right almost never resign, as there is usually little to no pressure on them to resign. People on the left almost always do, since the pressure from the party/press/PACs is enormous.

            Also, Wilson TWICE screamed "You lie!" when Obama said: "There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false – the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."

            What part of the sentence was untrue? The bill specifically excluded undocumented persons from getting government subsidies for health insurance. Even the rightwing Politifact called Wilson's accusation "False".

    •  I agree with you (1+ / 0-)
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      We have lost so much civility..and the haters have so many more ways to show their hate. When Kennedy was killed, it took the news a little while to reach around the world. News readers did not analyze every last microscopic detail, nor did they run with information about his private life. Our culture has turned into one that lives to tear down other people.
      I dont believe there would be cheering in Congress, but I can think of a few hateful rightwing radio hosts who would milk the hate for as much as they could.

      We all have photographic memories. Some people just don't have any film.

      by fireflynw on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 10:36:49 AM PST

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