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  •  So true. (16+ / 0-)

    Hell, we're still in Korea, 60 years later, fer chrissake.

    Trust, but verify. - Reagan
    Vote, but Occupy. - commonmass
    The 3rd Way has squandered our Resistance for a pocket full of mumbles, Such are promises All lies and jests; still a kossack's about the horse race And disregards the effects...

    by Words In Action on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 11:44:04 AM PST

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    •  Korea's a tad fuzzy, but (6+ / 0-)

      Germany & Japan, where we also still have troops, were clearly defeated and had no choice.  As far as Korea goes, I suspect that our troops are more or less welcome as well.

      Places like Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia (etc) where we never had a clear military victory to justify the troops presence are much more clouded.  

      I'd say bring them * all * home ASAP.  But at least the first scenario is relatively benign in that our presence isn't really spawning future generations of terrorists likely to bedevil us more or less forever.  The second scenario is just plain idiotic on every imaginable level.

      •  Welcome or not, do we really have to have troops (3+ / 0-)
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        there? Can't we share the responsibility of protecting S Korea with a UN peacekeeping mechanism of some sort, whether troops or funding or both?

        Trust, but verify. - Reagan
        Vote, but Occupy. - commonmass
        The 3rd Way has squandered our Resistance for a pocket full of mumbles, Such are promises All lies and jests; still a kossack's about the horse race And disregards the effects...

        by Words In Action on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 02:03:54 PM PST

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        •  According to Wikipedia, yes we do (1+ / 0-)
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          With 28,500 American soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines in South Korea, U.S. forces in South Korea are a forward presence in the region and a key manifestation of the U.S. government’s rebalance toward the Asia-Pacific.
          I suspect that the North Koreans full well appreciate that harming any of these troops would be cataclysmic wrt there well-being.

          Thus they cease and desist in enacting any hostilities towards South Korea.

          Because, seriously, as history has shown us, only Israel can kill large number of US troops w/o consequence .. . .

          •  USS Liberty mistaken for an Egyptian ship (1+ / 0-)
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            from your link, roadbed....

            The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War.[3]

            The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.[4]

            At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.[1][5]

            Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship.

            For our fallen solders who come home from Afghanistan in a coffin to Dover, "God bless the cause for which they died."

            by allenjo on Sat Nov 23, 2013 at 04:25:34 AM PST

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