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  •  Obama faces the same pressures (4+ / 0-)
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    Until recently, he's gone along with everything the MIC wanted.  

    Obama is fortunate in that today's post 911 MIC is able to  minimize US mortality (though not the financial cost) and manipulate public opinion so that political blowback is non-existent.  

    Perhaps in his second term, Obama will display more of the political courage to resist the pressure for unnecessary war as did JFK and subsequent Dem presidents.

    If cutting Social Security & Medicare benefits for low income seniors is what Democrats do after they win a budget standoff, I'd hate to see what they do after they lose one.

    by Betty Pinson on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 02:17:49 PM PST

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    •  "A half-century after JFK’s assassination in... (3+ / 0-)
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      Dallas, we know that he was right, and that those counselling the use of force were wrong."

      At least, some of us do.

      "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." --Townes Van Zandt

      by Bisbonian on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 02:20:17 PM PST

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    •  I have to, sadly, agree with you. Two big (0+ / 0-)

      weaknesses of Obama at the start of his presidency were his lack of confidence and understanding of military and financial policies and his decision to rely on people who had a stake in bad old military and financial policies. Most of them are OWM who could have been in any administration, e.g. Clapper. Others may have been Democrats but of the Wall Street variety (Summers and Gaithner).
      In his defense, much as I love Hillary, I don't think she would have been any better. My guess is that she would have come on strong militarily because the Republicans would have gone after her for being (horrors) a woman and therefore wimpy. Actually, one reason I supported Obama over Hillary in the primaries is that I thought there would be too much pressure on her to be hawkish. Of course it turned out that there was that same pressure on Obama.

      While Democrats work to get more people to vote, Republicans work to ensure those votes won't count.

      by Tamar on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 02:53:50 PM PST

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      •  Half agree, Hillary would have been better (1+ / 0-)
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        She had much more experience and enough confidence to make her own decisions, regardless of what her advisors recommended.

        OTOH, Obama was completely green.  He made no decisions on his own.

        If cutting Social Security & Medicare benefits for low income seniors is what Democrats do after they win a budget standoff, I'd hate to see what they do after they lose one.

        by Betty Pinson on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 03:08:01 PM PST

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        •  OBL-he decided against most others advice to (0+ / 0-)

          go after Bin Laden given the only moderate assurance that they'd found him. IIRC even Biden advised against it.

          I think that's a good example. It is the only one I can think of but it's a big one.

          Also how he refused to go at it alone and resisted pressure to go it alone around Libya and made it a real coalition.

        •  The pressure wouldn't have been necessary (0+ / 0-)

          She was a foreign policy hawk then and remains one to this day.

          The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.

          by chuckvw on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 03:48:28 PM PST

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    •  Obama didn't pull troops out of Iraq? (3+ / 0-)
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      Obama ordered military strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities?

      Obama sent troops to Syria?

      "Everything" used to mean "everything". When did the meaning change?

      Dick Cheney 2/14/10: "I was a big supporter of waterboarding"

      by Bob Love on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 03:17:33 PM PST

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