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  •  they already had the assassinate heads of state (0+ / 0-)

    setup already in place for Castro. All the players for the conspiracy. Ironically/sadly, Bobby Kennedy was running that directly or indirectly.

     They didn't have to set things up from scratch to kill JFK. The groups that wanted JFK dead overlap those that wanted Castro dead by a very large degree. That's the argument, anyway.

    I think wondering how and why JFK was murdered IS a serious note ('on a more serious note" you say. It isn't a joke to wonder who did it. IT is the biggest unsolved crime of the century or perhaps in all of American history even.) Unless you mean Red Dwarf, lol...there is silliness there but not in the topic.

    I point it out because I'm tired of people rolling their eyes at "crazy conspiracy theorists" and then dismissing them and am getting a bit of that in your post's lightness on the subject. The US government itself, the last time it officially "spoke", decided it was a conspiracy but did not name the players. The desire to figure out who those players were is only natural after the House Select Committee on Assassinations said it was a conspiracy.

    Sorry to be all vehement and all. The autopsy was botched and the doctors who did it were not pathologists. No one now disputes it was a debacle. And we can go from there.

    •  The key acoustic evidence from the HSCA... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...supposedly proving a fourth shot has been debunked many times over.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 05:26:57 PM PST

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    •  Up until a year ago, I used to be one of (0+ / 0-)

      those 'crazy conspiracy theorists' myself, both with regard to JFK and to 9-11. Then I read Vincent Bugliosi's Reclaiming History and am now firmly convinced Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone to assassinate President Kennedy.

      Bugliosi's book is that magisterial. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Do set aside some time to read it, though, as it is quite lengthy.

      I still retain some doubts about the official narrative re 9-11, especially Bush's remark to his CIA briefer on August 8 that the briefer had covered his ass. Just so flippant and insouciant and, of course, Bush was not compelled to answer questions under oath, in public and alone before the 9-11 Commission. Nor was Cheney.

      On a lighter note, if such is permitted, I would point out that the official narrative of 9-11 is itself a conspiracy theory, since it posits a conspiracy of the 19 hijackers and their various supporting elements. I'm reminded of that quip (attributed IIRC to Paul Thompson): "You can cal me a 'conspiracy theorist' if I can call you a 'coincidence theorist.' :)

    •  JFK was murdered because Oswald was mad about (3+ / 2-)
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      the Bay of Pigs.

      Oswald was a rabid Communist - he had gone to live in the USSR and even that experience had not opened his eyes.

      It is also worth remembering that Bobby Kennedy was murdered by a Palestinian terrorist angry about the US sending weapons to Israel. -

      After his arrest, Sirhan said, "I can explain it. I did it for my country."[17] Sirhan believed he was deliberately betrayed by Kennedy's support for Israel in the June 1967 Six-Day War,[26] which had begun exactly one year to the day before the assassination. During a search of Sirhan's apartment after his arrest, a spiral-bound notebook was found containing a diary entry which demonstrated that his anger had gradually fixated on Robert Kennedy, who had promised to send 50 fighter jets to Israel if he were elected president. Sirhan's journal entry of May 18, 1968, read: "My determination to eliminate R.F.K. is becoming the more and more of an unshakable obsession...Kennedy must die before June 5th".[13][17] They found other notebooks and diary entries which contained his growing rage at Zionists, particularly at Kennedy;
      M.T. Mehdi, then secretary-general of the Action Committee on American-Arab Relations, believed that Sirhan had acted in justifiable self-defense, stating: "Sirhan was defending himself against those 50 Phantom jets Kennedy was sending to Israel." Mehdi wrote a 100-page book on the subject called Kennedy and Sirhan: Why?[28]
      •  Uprated to counter the bots. (3+ / 0-)
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        I think this HR is a mistake. I heard the same story from the son of one of the high ranking Cuban politicians of the day.  He was convinced, and in fact my Cuban friend told me that many Cubans on both sides of the fight were really mad at JFK. The Castro people because the US had instigated the Bay of Pigs, and the patriots were angry because they felt betrayed. They understood they were supposed to have American support and didn't get it.

        Rudeness is a weak imitation of strength. - Eric Hoffer

        by Otteray Scribe on Sat Nov 23, 2013 at 11:15:14 PM PST

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