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  •  This may be controversial (4+ / 0-)
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    But I really believe that Rush should be forced off the air by the government, and he should go to jail for the ugly shit he spews.

    Calling his filth "free speech" is an abuse of the First Amendment.

    Don't call these racist thugs the tea party, they are *teabaggers*! Please don't insult the original Tea Party as they were patriots. Call them TeaBaggers!

    by TeaBaggersAreRacists on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 06:12:45 PM PST

    •  It isn't controversial; (8+ / 0-)

      it's just unconstitutional.  It isn't controversial to think that a murderer who was ruled not guilty on a technicality shouldn't be allowed to walk free; and it isn't controversial to think that a hateful windbag shouldn't be allowed to pollute our airwaves and demagogue to our youth, elders, and military.  It's just common sense.

      But common sense in this case runs up against an absolute law protecting all our right to be heard, and to not be silenced or punished for speaking (at least not by the government.)  The problem is that there's no reliable way to carve exceptions into that absolute right to free speech to allow us to quell hatefulness that couldn't be twisted to censor anything that was unpopular or 'immoral', and thereby erode all our freedom.

      •  I don't believe that is unconstitutional (5+ / 0-)

        There are limits to the reach of the First Amendment.  
        This idea that it is completely absolute is fairly new and pretty wrong.  It is that kind of extreme twisting of the interpretation of the meaning of the First Amendment that got us shit decisions like Citizens United.

        Racist, misogynistic, homophobic hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment, IMO.  The government has a "compelling interest" in stopping this kind of speech because it does considerable harm to society, and the speech itself has little to no value.  And I don't buy the "slippery slope" argument either.  If I were a judge, I would have no problem upholding a law or FCC regulation that would ban Rush Limbaugh from the airways.

        Rush Limbaugh belongs in a dark dungy prison, fed on a diet of 1500 calories of bland ground up food.  Actually, that might actually reduce his big belly.

        Don't call these racist thugs the tea party, they are *teabaggers*! Please don't insult the original Tea Party as they were patriots. Call them TeaBaggers!

        by TeaBaggersAreRacists on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 07:51:54 PM PST

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        •  Don't make the mistake of assuming (1+ / 0-)
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          the government is benign.  The house committee on Un-american Activities was actively against anti-Vietnam protests and other social activism.  They considered this kind of speech a form of aiding and abetting communism.  Like terrorism, Communism could be hiding anywhere.

          Today, government has a "compelling interest" in curbing "terrorist activities."  This interest has opened the door for the NSA to legally wiretap the entire population of the planet, to detain individuals without charge or evidence, and to search and seize property without a warrant.  That is the monster that needs to be caged and starved.

          "YOPP!" --Horton Hears a Who

          by Reepicheep on Sat Nov 23, 2013 at 09:24:04 AM PST

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    •  I disagree (0+ / 0-)

      If he is taken off the air by government action, he will be treated as a martyr by the baggers.

      If he just dies a slow death by free market forces, that argument can't be made.

      Let him go down by bringing his financiers down, too. Double the benefit.

      •  I agree. A ban by the government (1+ / 0-)
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        would not only be unconstitutional, it would be bad policy. Rush will sink his own ship. We don't need the government intruding where it has no right to intrude. If Rush were bannded by government action, he would be idolized and held as a martyr by every RW nut case who would scream that the govt. was abusing its power. That we don't need. Let Rush sink and lose his financial base. That's a far better outcome.

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