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  •  Care to explain (6+ / 0-)

    Why that is a wild accusation and utterly false?

    An exemption from property taxes for church-owned property is extremely common.

    "Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation..."--David St. Hubbins

    by Old Left Good Left on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 07:43:17 PM PST

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    •  Pastors pay property tax when they own their (0+ / 0-)

      homes.  I think that's what ogre meant.

      •  But Most Pastors IME (0+ / 0-)


        •  The quote, AGAIN... (1+ / 0-)
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          They are probably still exempt from paying property taxes...
          And that wasn't about churches. It was about clergy.

          It was an accusation based in pure, hostile ignorance. And it wouldn't have taken more than a couple minutes to verify it online. It's the kind of behavior I'd expect on Redstate. Here? Well, there was this idea that we were rather attached to the idea of facts and reason.

          But maybe that evaporated over the past six months or so while I've been really busy.

          MY property taxes haven't been lifted by a cent by becoming clergy.

          And at least in my tradition, many of the churches make a point of making an in lieu of taxes payment to the municipal government whose services they use. Taxation is a device that can be -- has been, is -- used to suppress some activities. Which is why churches are tax exempt (separation of church and state), as long as they opt in to that status -- in return for which they give up partisan political activities (those are the rules -- they are free to take up issues, but cannot support parties or candidates).

          It's frustrating and distressing to watch people on the left indulge their (our) frustration with the abusers by just going after everyone who is associated with them even vaguely.

          Burning the forest to get at the poison oak.

          "Be just and good." John Adams to Thomas Jefferson

          by ogre on Sat Nov 23, 2013 at 07:11:20 AM PST

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        •  Actually... Most do. (2+ / 0-)
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          With the decline in church membership and the recession, many congregations have sold or repurposed their parsonages. It is considered a boon to be called to a congregation with housing.

          However,  many churches make up for it with a housing allowance separate from income. This has been tax-exempt, saving both the church and the minister money.

          "Do not believe in any thought that dehumanizes you." - James H. Cone

          by Word Alchemy on Sat Nov 23, 2013 at 07:13:22 AM PST

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